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		<title>By: Staying True &#8211; 10 Million Words</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/10millionwords/2010/02/08/i-am-ozzy/#comment-282</link>
		<dc:creator>Staying True &#8211; 10 Million Words</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 16:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] as popular as stories of explosion. We love to read of the regular guy who becomes the hero (see I Am Ozzy); and we love to hear of how the former hero loses his luster (see The Politician). In Staying True [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] as popular as stories of explosion. We love to read of the regular guy who becomes the hero (see I Am Ozzy); and we love to hear of how the former hero loses his luster (see The Politician). In Staying True [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/10millionwords/2010/02/08/i-am-ozzy/#comment-264</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 03:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw the Ozzy book on our bookshelves at work and thought, &quot;Hmm, I wonder what Tim Challies&#039; review will be...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw the Ozzy book on our bookshelves at work and thought, &#8220;Hmm, I wonder what Tim Challies&#8217; review will be&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/10millionwords/2010/02/08/i-am-ozzy/#comment-262</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Chris. Although it&#039;s very tempting to take a moral approach to stories like this one and view it only through those lenses, surely there would be a great benefit in asking the worldview question. Why was Ozzy so popular with kids in the 60s, 70s and then again, bizzarely, in the late 90s and 00s? What does that tell us about our culture? What can the church learn from these phenomena?

Just focussing on the moral, without asking the &#039;why&#039; question seems to be the perenial error of Christian fundementalism (i write as one) always judging the morality, but never asking why this lifestyle was viable to Ozzy, and attractive to others. can we learn about our culture from these books?

Anyway, i hate that my first comment on either of your blogs is slightly negative. Especially as i&#039;m asking you to do something i couldn&#039;t do! Your book was one of my reading highlights of the last year, and your recent articles on Challies.com have made me seriously think about how i use social media, and how it uses me. Your voice fills an empty niche. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Chris. Although it&#8217;s very tempting to take a moral approach to stories like this one and view it only through those lenses, surely there would be a great benefit in asking the worldview question. Why was Ozzy so popular with kids in the 60s, 70s and then again, bizzarely, in the late 90s and 00s? What does that tell us about our culture? What can the church learn from these phenomena?</p>
<p>Just focussing on the moral, without asking the &#8216;why&#8217; question seems to be the perenial error of Christian fundementalism (i write as one) always judging the morality, but never asking why this lifestyle was viable to Ozzy, and attractive to others. can we learn about our culture from these books?</p>
<p>Anyway, i hate that my first comment on either of your blogs is slightly negative. Especially as i&#8217;m asking you to do something i couldn&#8217;t do! Your book was one of my reading highlights of the last year, and your recent articles on Challies.com have made me seriously think about how i use social media, and how it uses me. Your voice fills an empty niche. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Challies</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/10millionwords/2010/02/08/i-am-ozzy/#comment-261</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Challies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments and questions.

I am definitely open to suggestions about what you&#039;d like to see more and less of in the project. At this point I feel like I&#039;m still just getting my bearings, getting a sense of the different kinds of books out there. I feel like as time goes on I&#039;ll be able to bring a lot more to bear on my reflections on them. Really I&#039;m only 1/12 into this thing and am still just getting a sense of what the project will be.

So please, tell me what it should be!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments and questions.</p>
<p>I am definitely open to suggestions about what you&#8217;d like to see more and less of in the project. At this point I feel like I&#8217;m still just getting my bearings, getting a sense of the different kinds of books out there. I feel like as time goes on I&#8217;ll be able to bring a lot more to bear on my reflections on them. Really I&#8217;m only 1/12 into this thing and am still just getting a sense of what the project will be.</p>
<p>So please, tell me what it should be!</p>
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		<title>By: Lorina</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/10millionwords/2010/02/08/i-am-ozzy/#comment-260</link>
		<dc:creator>Lorina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 11:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tim,
I&#039;m really enjoying your blog... I am serving overseas and enjoy this glimpse into what&#039;s going on in the States.

I&#039;m wondering if Ozzy wrote anything about marriage in his book. He seems pretty devoted to his wife... any thoughts on that?
Thanks,
Lorina</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tim,<br />
I&#8217;m really enjoying your blog&#8230; I am serving overseas and enjoy this glimpse into what&#8217;s going on in the States.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m wondering if Ozzy wrote anything about marriage in his book. He seems pretty devoted to his wife&#8230; any thoughts on that?<br />
Thanks,<br />
Lorina</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Blick</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/10millionwords/2010/02/08/i-am-ozzy/#comment-259</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Blick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chris

I forgive you for f-ting!

I guess we&#039;re more on the same page than seemed at first

 &lt;i&gt;&quot;I am wondering if Tim can move beyond the simple morality-tale stuff and dig a bit deeper. The point of this whole 10m thing was to understand culture and people better, not just to complete a marathon...Just what are the “worldview” points we are to get out of this review?&lt;/i&gt;

Cos if you (Tim) just reads alot of books most evangelical Christians won&#039;t want to read and then says &#039;Don&#039;t bother reading this book&#039; I think your would be better spent reading (or doing) something else. Unless we are going to get some worldview points along the way (and not just in your upcoming NY bestseller paperback &quot;How I Read Lots of Bad books in one year&quot; - c&#039;mon Tim, fess up - is that the plan?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris</p>
<p>I forgive you for f-ting!</p>
<p>I guess we&#8217;re more on the same page than seemed at first</p>
<p> <i>&#8220;I am wondering if Tim can move beyond the simple morality-tale stuff and dig a bit deeper. The point of this whole 10m thing was to understand culture and people better, not just to complete a marathon&#8230;Just what are the “worldview” points we are to get out of this review?</i></p>
<p>Cos if you (Tim) just reads alot of books most evangelical Christians won&#8217;t want to read and then says &#8216;Don&#8217;t bother reading this book&#8217; I think your would be better spent reading (or doing) something else. Unless we are going to get some worldview points along the way (and not just in your upcoming NY bestseller paperback &#8220;How I Read Lots of Bad books in one year&#8221; &#8211; c&#8217;mon Tim, fess up &#8211; is that the plan?)</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/10millionwords/2010/02/08/i-am-ozzy/#comment-258</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt (the Englishman) if I had written to you I would have hit respond, but I was writing to Challies, so sorry about the confusion. I had a brain f--t and spelled out your name, thinking it was Matt Challies I was writing to. This kind of name-conflation happens to me all the time. Forgive me.  

Any way, it seems my main point is still floating around up there. I am wondering if Tim can move beyond the simple morality-tale stuff and dig a bit deeper. The point of this whole 10m thing was to understand culture and people better, not just to complete a marathon. Unless I am wrong. 
That is why I am asking the question. 


Just what are the &quot;worldview&quot; points we are to get out of this review?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt (the Englishman) if I had written to you I would have hit respond, but I was writing to Challies, so sorry about the confusion. I had a brain f&#8211;t and spelled out your name, thinking it was Matt Challies I was writing to. This kind of name-conflation happens to me all the time. Forgive me.  </p>
<p>Any way, it seems my main point is still floating around up there. I am wondering if Tim can move beyond the simple morality-tale stuff and dig a bit deeper. The point of this whole 10m thing was to understand culture and people better, not just to complete a marathon. Unless I am wrong.<br />
That is why I am asking the question. </p>
<p>Just what are the &#8220;worldview&#8221; points we are to get out of this review?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Blick</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/10millionwords/2010/02/08/i-am-ozzy/#comment-257</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Blick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris 

thanks for the comment - I think. I&#039;m not sure if you&#039;re talking to me or Tim, who read the book and wrote the review.

For the record I am an Englishman, a heavy metal musician who understands Ozzy&#039;s role in the hymnody of an age and at least up to about 1985 owned every album Ozzy had ever released. soooo...

What I was questioning is the depth insight that Tim is going to derive from popular culture from reading a ghost written book about Ozzy that as he says is &quot;hard to believe...could be consistently factual&quot; and may be &quot;a compendium of could-be-true tales drawn from dim memories&quot;. 

And even this was a useful book to read on that subject, whether the overall goal is worth the time he&#039;s devoting to reading 10 million words...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris </p>
<p>thanks for the comment &#8211; I think. I&#8217;m not sure if you&#8217;re talking to me or Tim, who read the book and wrote the review.</p>
<p>For the record I am an Englishman, a heavy metal musician who understands Ozzy&#8217;s role in the hymnody of an age and at least up to about 1985 owned every album Ozzy had ever released. soooo&#8230;</p>
<p>What I was questioning is the depth insight that Tim is going to derive from popular culture from reading a ghost written book about Ozzy that as he says is &#8220;hard to believe&#8230;could be consistently factual&#8221; and may be &#8220;a compendium of could-be-true tales drawn from dim memories&#8221;. </p>
<p>And even this was a useful book to read on that subject, whether the overall goal is worth the time he&#8217;s devoting to reading 10 million words&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt,
Ozzy is an Englishman, and they do love theatre. He lived through the period of glam-rock and the big production of the stadium-sized, theatrical rock show. 

It would be interesting to hear you go beyond the simple morality-tales approach you are taking with the biographical material you are reading. It is an easy out in my opinion. There is a larger story that you are not touching upon, and that is the hymnology of an age expressed in pop-music. Regardless of your personal taste, there is something to be learned from the artistic expressions that are immensely popular at any given time. 

Black Sabbath&#039;s music was — for better or for worse — a defining moment in rock history, and there are so many Christian bands who are in fact indebted to and copying their grooves (I am sure inadvertently) that it seems strange to simply shunt him off as a useless &quot;rock-star&quot;. His influence is deeper than you give on here. 

Ozzy may be a nut, but he is a lasting nut. This might sound too close to praise for Spinal Tap-ishness, but War Pigs seems more relevant today than when it was written.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt,<br />
Ozzy is an Englishman, and they do love theatre. He lived through the period of glam-rock and the big production of the stadium-sized, theatrical rock show. </p>
<p>It would be interesting to hear you go beyond the simple morality-tales approach you are taking with the biographical material you are reading. It is an easy out in my opinion. There is a larger story that you are not touching upon, and that is the hymnology of an age expressed in pop-music. Regardless of your personal taste, there is something to be learned from the artistic expressions that are immensely popular at any given time. </p>
<p>Black Sabbath&#8217;s music was — for better or for worse — a defining moment in rock history, and there are so many Christian bands who are in fact indebted to and copying their grooves (I am sure inadvertently) that it seems strange to simply shunt him off as a useless &#8220;rock-star&#8221;. His influence is deeper than you give on here. </p>
<p>Ozzy may be a nut, but he is a lasting nut. This might sound too close to praise for Spinal Tap-ishness, but War Pigs seems more relevant today than when it was written.</p>
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		<title>By: Reg Schofield</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/10millionwords/2010/02/08/i-am-ozzy/#comment-255</link>
		<dc:creator>Reg Schofield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hard to read anything about any &quot;Rockstar&quot; and not shake ones head. I grew up listening to Black Sabbath and the funny thing about  most of the early music was , the Devil is bad , evil is the wrong path . Ozzy is indeed a unique icon of popular culture and its sad to see he has not grown up yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hard to read anything about any &#8220;Rockstar&#8221; and not shake ones head. I grew up listening to Black Sabbath and the funny thing about  most of the early music was , the Devil is bad , evil is the wrong path . Ozzy is indeed a unique icon of popular culture and its sad to see he has not grown up yet.</p>
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