Sep

03

2013

Jared C. Wilson|11:55 am CT

Thinking Evangelically About Tim Tebow


I like Tim Tebow a lot. As an athlete and a person. Two seasons ago his run with the Denver Broncos, though for the sober-minded somewhat ill-fated, was thrilling to watch. He’s fun to root for, on and off the field. Like many Christians and sports fans, I have enjoyed Tebowmania, don’t mind the constant ESPN stories, and really hope he lands a starting gig with an NFL team.

As a Patriots fan, I was overjoyed when he signed with New England in the off-season. I suppose the Patriots ended up with one of the few third-string quarterbacks the fans were excited to watch. And we really wanted him to succeed. I was disappointed when he was cut, but I understand that football is football, and as much as the Patriots organization enjoyed and admired Tebow, they are ultimately in the business of winning football games. If Belichick and company really believed Tebow would be integral in getting to the playoffs and winning another championship, they would not have cut him.

But I’m a little concerned about the way many of my fellow evangelicals think about the phenomenon that is Tim Tebow, and I’m a little concerned about the way Tim Tebow may think about the phenomenon that is Tim Tebow. I think in general evangelicals could think more evangelically — which is to say, guided by the gospel, soberly. Some thoughts:

1. People who follow me regularly on Twitter know that I tweet a lot about NFL football. And I usually do so in a joking, even sarcastic, manner. I enjoy football a lot. Making fun of the players and teams is my way of not enjoying it too much (let the reader understand). I am up-front about my “man-crush” on Tom Brady and take all the ribbing this entitles me too. And I hope I give as much as I get. It’s all in good fun for me. I don’t hate anybody I joke about. Most people understand this. Except when I make a joke about Tebow. Most of my Tebow jokes poke fun at aspects of Christian culture, having some fun about his squeaky clean image. (“Tebow was late to practice because he was slipping tracts in his teammates’ lockers.” That kind of thing.) Some people understand I’m being light-hearted and that I actually like Tebow. Many people do not. Some have accused me not just of hating the guy but of damaging the testimony of the gospel.

2. I think we need to make a clear distinction between the reputation of the gospel and our desire to see Christian “celebrities” succeed. When we don’t, we lose our sense of humor. And what makes a better witness for the gospel — being super-serious about a Christian role model or demonstrating that we can have a sense of humor about ourselves? I fear that the Tebow-mania is just another manifestation of the way evangelicals think cultural cache and celebrity influence is vital to the cause of Christ. When I read the Bible, I see the opposite, actually, how God uses the low, the weak, the despised, the cultural cast-offs to further his kingdom. I am not against Christians in the entertainment or athletic spotlights, of course, but I am against the idolization of these people, which I think much of our fandom becomes. To be clear: The cause of Christ is not dependent on Tim Tebow’s success in the NFL. And, by the way, neither is his witness! So:

3. What do we communicate to young Christians when we overlook Tebow’s obvious deficiencies because of his faith? When we insist that his being cut is the result of his outspoken faith, that he’s some kind of martyr? I think we inadvertently teach that 1) you can only make an impact for God if you are high-profile, and 2) you should never admit your weaknesses or flaws because God works best through the strong and powerful.

4. I think evangelicals have an honesty problem when it comes to this part of the cultural marketplace. (I’m about to be pretty blunt.) We think our concert-like church services rival MTV and Disney. But they really don’t. We think our mainstream Christian music and Christian movies are just as artful as the best of the world’s offerings. But they really aren’t. We think if we pass around the right email stories and sketchy news links we will save America (or whatever). But we won’t. And we think our favorite Christian role models are the untouchable anointed. But they aren’t. What I’m saying is: It is not helpful, nor even Christian, to not be honest about Tim Tebow. So:

5. It’s becoming clear to most sober-minded folks that Tebow’s skill-set is not conducive to being a starting quarterback in the NFL. It says nothing about his character or faith to make this admission. He is, by all indications, a great guy with a great testimony and a great heart. This does not make him a great quarterback. And to be more direct, I have to wonder if anyone close to Tebow is enabled to speak truthfully to him about this matter. When he was cut from the Patriots roster last week, he characteristically went out with his head high and respect on display. On his Twitter, he thanked the Patriots organization for the opportunity, and then he tweeted a few Bible verses, and then he tweeted that his dream is still to be an NFL quarterback. Now, perhaps this dream is realistic. But most people, including people who want it to be realistic, are acknowledging it doesn’t seem realistic at all. He’s had ample opportunities. Here’s my thing: The NFL is full of starting players who played one position in college that is not their position today. This includes college starting quarterbacks who find their place in the NFL as safeties, running backs, tight ends, etc. I just have to ask: At what point is Tebow’s inflexibility about his dream actually a manifestation of pride? At what point does he need to say, “Well, I can’t be a quarterback, but I will play fullback”? I can’t say. Maybe you can’t say. But surely we are close to that day? I don’t know. I just hope he doesn’t ride his stubborn dream into athletic obscurity. He is, I think, talented enough to play in the NFL, but (probably) not as quarterback. I will close with this:

6. “Follow your dreams and don’t give up” is a message our young people hear a lot. Like, a lot. But it is not a uniquely Christian message. Divorced from the clear commands of Scripture and without the heart-shaping of the gospel of Jesus Christ, “follow your dreams and don’t give up” is actually a recipe for self-exaltation. Maybe we can help the church, especially our young believers, and maybe we can help Tebow himself, by taking him off the pedestal and loving him enough to believe that it’s not very Christlike to deceive ourselves or push headlong into a dream that might ought to be sacrificed. (I’m just thinking aloud here. Maybe he’ll get signed by the Buffalo Bills or something.)

I expect a lot of push-back on this post. And that’s okay. Thanks for reading it.

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185 Comments

  1. I am a native Floridian and a University of Florida fan and this is a great post! This nail has been needing a good hit on the head for a while, thanks for writing this.

  2. No push-back here, bro. I think you’re right on. I’d love to see Tebow playing TE (that’s tight end, not Teaching Elder) or Safety. As evangelicals we have gotten so used to playing the victimization/persecution card that it comes out almost reflexively even in cases like this where it’s completely unfounded. Thanks for pointing it out.

    • ” As evangelicals we have gotten so used to playing the victimization/persecution card that it comes out almost reflexively even in cases like this where it’s completely unfounded.”

      I would suggest that American Christians do not even know the meaning of the word persecution – at least not yet.

      But note that Tim Tebow has never said he was being persecuted or a victim — that is only his kooky fans.

    • What’s wrong with TT being a TE (Teaching Elder)?

  3. This is one of those “thanks for SOMEONE saying it” type of posts. And as a Twitter follower, it probably the most tolerable thing I’ve read from you regarding the NFL. :)

  4. The whole article was great, but #4 was spot on. Nothing else to add, but that I really hope Tim has some people speaking honest truth into him. He has other talents that I think he could use outside of football (hopefully not politics…yet) haha

    • Tim Tebow has a very close circle of friends and advisers and you can be sure he is hearing all the truth that he needs to hear.

      • A lot of people have had very close circles of friends and advisors, but have not been told all the hard truth’s they needed to hear. I hope that’s not the case with Tebow, but I can’t rule it out.

  5. Nailed it. The gospel is way bigger than any of the humans we tend to idolize, and Jesus did not come as a warrior but as a humble servant. It’s always good to take a look at our perspective and get it back in line with the Word.

  6. “If Belichick and company really believed Tebow would be integral in getting to the playoffs and winning another championship, they would not have cut him.”

    Which is why when asked about it Belichick wouldn’t rule out resigning Tebow. (see yahoo sports today)

    On an off note I find the fascination with football among a lot of prominent evangelicals to be misplaced and a bit odd. A game filled with such incredible violence, corruption, cheating, greed, and pride of the worst sort is tweeted and written about constantly. Not that my opinion counts for blank but I just find that a bit on the confusing side.

    • Good point.

    • Andy: Robert Kraft, Bill Belichick, Tom Brady, and Tedy Bruschi (a former Patriot) have all said Tebow may be a Patriot again even this season. Bruschi said Tebow might be in and out a few times throughout the season and he previously said Tebow was not just a project for the Patriots’ coaches, but a crusade. It will be interesting to see how it plays out and just what becomes of our friend Tim Tebow.

      Like always, Tim told Belichick and McDaniels he would do anything (play any position) to help his team win, so it seems likely if those coaches thought he should/could play tight-end that he would be doing that given that they went into training camp a bit tight-end needy.

    • Football is also filled with passion, discipline, teamwork, sacrifice, humility, toughness, competition, athleticism, skill, dedication, etc. that are displayed (even if not celebrated and focused on by the media) at levels from pop warner to Division III to the NFL.

      Football certainly isn’t perfect. It is played and coached by sinful, flawed men after all. But neither is it inherently evil. In fact, many of the most mature, Godly Christian men I’ve ever known were former teammates and coaches. Men who’s holiness was refined in part by the lessons they learned through football. There were countless life lessons to be learned from the sport and numerous ways in which greater clarity was brought to Christian truths and virtues.

      • But at the college and pro levels especially, it is mostly violent, profane, corrupt, fleshly in every respect. It flies in the face of Christian values in almost every way possible–especially the unconscionable amounts of money involved. It’s possible to imagine a Tim Tebow being forced to become a gladiator in the first century. It’s unfortunate that men like him voluntarily aspire to be gladiator types today. And I’m a Tebow fan.

        • Sorry, no need to include both of my comments. I don’t want to seem argumentative.

          • There are a lot of things you wrote that i’d like to discuss. I’ll just ask about the first one. Can you explain why you think it is downright sinful to pay someone for playing a game? Are you against all entertainers being paid? Is it wrong to pay singers for singing songs or actors for acting? Is it wrong to pay an author for writing a novel? What is it about paying someone for playing a game that makes it different?

            Is it just because you think it’s not a good way for people to spend time? You do realize that the NFL brings in billions of dollars a year. Capitalism!!! Wooo! That money has to get paid to someone. We’re not communists…

        • You’re problem with it is that they get paid a lot? Can you expound on that? Does that mean you think all sports are wrong on the professional level?

          I can agree that the sport can be violent but i don’t understand why you think it is “profane, corrupt, and fleshly in every respect.” Please explain what that means. How can throwing and catching a football be profane?

          • It is downright sinful to pay millions of dollars to anybody to play a game.

            Throwing and catching are activities that require skill. But football, as we know it, is about bone-crushing, body-slamming, brain-damaging hits. For spectators to watch. For entertainment. For fun.

            That’s fleshly. That kind of thing is at odds with the values of Jesus and Christianity.

            And the kinds of attitudes (proud, cocky, intimidating, etc.) and speech (profanity) that commonly go along with the game are described in the New Testament as deeds of the flesh, and sins.

            And it doesn’t matter what day of the week these activities take place. They are what they are. Any time. Every time.

        • Hal: “It is downright sinful to pay millions of dollars to anybody to play a game.”

          First, can you cite a scripture reference to support that statement? Second, Tim Tebow is not paying anyone to play football, although he is paying some pricey quarterback coaches, he is generally collecting those “sinful millions.” I say that somewhat tongue-in-cheek because I suppose that does not matter to you.

          “Throwing and catching are activities that require skill. But football, as we know it, is about bone-crushing, body-slamming, brain-damaging hits. For spectators to watch. For entertainment. For fun.”

          You may be able to make an argument about the violence in football. However, over the years there have been multiple rules changes to minimize the violence, as well as equipment development and sideline medical attention to protect the players, etc. There are also stiff game and financial penalties for unnecessary roughness/violence. It is not violence for the sake of violence. But to say there is no skill involved in playing football shows your ignorance of the game.

          “And the kinds of attitudes (proud, cocky, intimidating, etc.) and speech (profanity) that commonly go along with the game are described in the New Testament as deeds of the flesh, and sins.”

          Well my neighbors and coworkers have those same attitudes and the same speech and I am not a professional athlete. I believe Christians are called to in the world and not of the world and a prime reason Tim Tebow is so respected is because he does that so well.

          • My first comment(above)was agreeing with Andy, who said,

            “I find the fascination with football among a lot of prominent evangelicals to be misplaced and a bit odd. A game filled with such incredible violence, corruption, cheating, greed, and pride of the worst sort is tweeted and written about constantly … I just find that a bit on the confusing side.”

            Your reactions to my points are, perhaps, the first steps in your someday coming to see the truth. That’s ok, it took me quite a few years to come to it, myself.

    • How familiar are you with Belichick? He doesn’t give straight answers very often. Half their team is on the injury report every week. If asked if he planned on signing Brett Favre, i’m guessing he wouldn’t rule it out.

      That said, I really hope they do bring him back. Just don’t get your hopes up.

      • Bill: Tedy Bruschi is the one who gives me the most hope that Tim will be a Patriot again… it will be interesting to see what does happen. So much in the NFL is about opportunity and to the world that would point to chance (i.e. where you are when someone is injured, when a coach changes, etc.). We of course look for our Sovereign God to unfold His plan and purposes… yes, even in the NFL (smile).

  7. As a Denver-ite. . . I agree with everything spiritual in this post. Sage advice, biblically based. . love it. I would flip the “pride” argument though. I think teams don’t give Tebow a chance in a system he can execute (like denver did. . all the way to the conference playoffs) because it would show that their uber-sophisticated NFL offense wasn’t so great. Denver couldn’t even stomach doing it for one more season. Elway wouldn’t admit it was working.

    So, I don’t think Tebow is a martyr, and I don’t think he’s a great pocket NFL QB. I don’t get into the spiritualization of his struggles. But, notice that he has never been given the chance to run a spread or a Colin Kaepernick-like offense either. I think he’d do VERY well there. I know this isn’t a football blog. . so, sorry about that :)

    • Aaron, you have an interesting football perspective on Tim’s game that some others share. As to pride, nobody who actually knows Tim Tebow has ever said anything except how incredibly humble he is and the polar opposite of prideful.

    • Aaron, You are correct that this is not a football blog, but the original thesis included the suggestion that Tebow needed to change positions – so your point is well taken and shared by many.

      “It’s becoming clear to most sober-minded folks that Tebow’s skill-set is not conducive to being a starting quarterback in the NFL,” that is not true of all “sober-minded folks,” with our apologies to the author.

      • Aaron, I agree with you that Tebow can succeed in the right offensive system. The only problem is there needs to be a team who is willing to change the identity of their team. Say the Raiders or Jets took him as their QB. Their offense would have to adapt to his playing style. Teams have been working all year on their current offense schemes. Also, teams usually draft players to fit their scheme. If Tebow came in as their QB, they would have to rebuild again.

        You could make the argument that the Raiders and Jets are rebuilding anyways. But do they really want to go in that direction? What if Tebow gets hurt? What if the head coach gets fired and doesn’t like Tebow? Most professional organizations don’t want to take that risk on a guy who realistically will never win the big one. So what is the point?

        Keep in mind I am a Tebow fan. I am just sadly coming to the realization that he won’t be an NFL QB.

  8. Mr. Wilson: Please do not confuse the crazy Tebow fans that have some of the wildest theology in the world with Tim Tebow himself. I have heard/read people who believe everything from the way the stars align adds up to #15 to many who think that they know God’s will for Tim Tebow (but somehow they don’t all have the same message from God), and of course the health-wealth people weigh in on Tim as well. I find Tim Tebow to be incredibly faithful to our Savior and to what he believes God’s will to be for him. But a whole lot of his fans, claiming to be fellow believers, are somewhere between kooks and heretics. One thing I have learned with certainty is the whole battle cry of “Tebow is persecuted in the NFL because he is a Christian” is highly offensive to the world and detrimental to their hearing the gospel.

    To you sir I would say, if you do not know Tim personally and/or if you have not at least read his book then you do not really know Tim’s motivation and thought process. I think you are way out of line to suggest, “it’s not very Christlike to deceive ourselves or push headlong into a dream that might ought to be sacrificed.” You sir, have no way to know that Tim’s dream should be sacrificed.

    Tim’s life portrays several things to me that I have often heard and seldom seen, one being lifestyle evangelism. Tim also illustrates to me John MacArthur’s take on how to know the will of God for your life. In a nutshell, if you are saved, spirit-filled, sanctified, submissive, and suffering – do whatever you want to do!

    “Once God gives you a desire, just starting moving. If He wants to move you, he’ll move you. You take what you know as God’s will and do what you want. Because God will give you the want. Then He’ll fulfill it in the right place. David said, Psalm 143:10, “Lord, teach me to do thy will.” Doesn’t say, teach me thy will, it’s obvious. He said, teach me to what? Do it (MacArthur).”

    http://www.gty.org/resources/print/sermons/1217

    How many American Christians do you know who are actually suffering for the cause of Christ? I am not suggesting that Tim’s struggle with the game and NFL employment is because he is a Christian, but he certainly takes many hits because of his faithfulness to Christ.

    As a young widow, I first met Tim Tebow on YouTube in the wee hours of the morning one night last November. I had completely missed his magical 2011 run with the Broncos because I am not a football fan (or at least I was not then) and I was otherwise occupied with a husband who was both in prison and dying of emphysema. I was watching something unrelated when I saw a video of Tim speaking at a Prison Fellowship event and then another of him sharing the gospel with men in prison. For a number of weeks I kept listening, watching, and reading until I felt like I knew the man personally.

    Do you happen to know anything about the gospel opportunities that Tim Tebow has had because he is a football player that he would have otherwise missed? We mostly hear about Tim’s work with kids, and he has impacted many. But he also has a heart for prison ministry and has visited prison many times including several trips to share the gospel individually, one-on-one, with every one of the 350-plus men on FL death row. I wonder have you ever heard Tim speak to prisoners of how they can live for the glory of God and have a life of significance even if they live out all their days behind a razor-wire fence – but it begins with knowing Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior? Have you ever heard Tim speak to huge groups of men or young people about living a life of significance and that it has nothing to do with fame and fortune but everything to do with living for Jesus? Do you know Tim’s goals in life, and why he wants to play football?

    I found a 2010 article explaining Tim’s vision for the Tim Tebow Foundation and it includes a string of boy’s homes. That sir is changing lives! That is the number one reason I want to see Tim succeed as an NFL quarterback – because I know his plans to use those big paychecks for the kingdom and glory of God — and because I know many in our culture — and especially in prison — will hear a football player who would never listen to a pastor!

    Have you considered that how Tim plays the game of football is key to why we are discussing him and why his faith and his faithfulness to our Savior are so widely known? In other words, God is using Tim’s weakness, even his failure, for His glory – so it is not really failure at all.

    Tim has a lot of critics. The saddest of those critics are fellow believers like you who sit in judgment of his life even as he is more faithful to our Savior in a minute than most are all day. It’s all fine well and good that you think Tim should change positions, but really, you write an editorial to say that to the world? In a word, sit on a tack; it is none of your evangelical business!

    It seems you also think that you know what motivated Belichick and Co. to cut Tim. I don’t know those unknown things and after hearing Belichick, Kraft, and Brady this week all say Tim might be a Patriot again before the season is out… I would not be at all surprised if that should come to pass… but what I know for certain is that God is not going to disclose His will for Tim Tebow’s football career through me – nor through you.

  9. I love point 6. We focus on our dream and/or our potential but what about our calling? We are called to live in a way that pleases God; our dreams may not line up with our calling.

    Romans 12:1-8

    I appeal to you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship. 2 Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.

    3 For by the grace given to me I say to everyone among you not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think with sober judgment, each according to the measure of faith that God has assigned. 4 For as in one body we have many members,5 and the members do not all have the same function, 5 so we, though many, are one body in Christ, and individually members one of another. 6 Having gifts that differ according to the grace given to us, let us use them: if prophecy, pin proportion to our faith; 7 if service, in our serving; the one who teaches, in his teaching; 8 the one who exhorts, in his exhortation; the one who contributes, in generosity; the one who leads,6 with zeal; the one who does acts of mercy, with cheerfulness.

  10. Nailed it.

    Now please write a post applying your second point to the Duck Dynasty crew. Even TGC is promoting this celebrity worship.

  11. This is a good post and I’d like permission to link it to my blog in the near future. I especially believe that points five and six are the most salient and I, too, wonder if Tebow’s unrelenting pursuit of a starting NFL quarterback position is a manifestation of pride. I can easily see how pride can manifest itself in Tim Tebow–two national titles at Florida, first sophomore to win the Heisman trophy, hailed as the greatest college football player ever, and the adoration of thousands upon thousands of fans (of which, I am one). However, the realistic view is that are more Christians in the NFL–a number of them more talented–than Tim Tebow; Tim just happens to be more outspoken than most. But a strong Christian faith doesn’t a talented football player make.

    • Randall, You write, “I, too, wonder if Tebow’s unrelenting pursuit of a starting NFL quarterback position is a manifestation of pride. I can easily see how pride can manifest itself in Tim Tebow…”

      But the problem with that statement is that nobody, but nobody who knows Tim personally speaks of pride, but always of his humility. I could cite numerous people for you, but a good one is Nathan Whitaker, co-author of Tim’s book, “Through My Eyes.”

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhs-yjFZAZo

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9N4g8VpFLc

    • “I, too, wonder if Tebow’s unrelenting pursuit of a starting NFL quarterback position is a manifestation of pride.”

      Remember that love always believes the best (I Cor. 13) and also be sure to read what Aaron wrote about Tebow’s football skillset and what Andy, John, and I wrote about Tim potentially returning to the Patriots to be developed. You might also want to read up on other great NFL quarterbacks and what a rocky beginning they often had (including I might add, John Elway).

  12. Good post. Seems that Tebow has been told “no” all his life, and has had the work ethic (and luck?) to do what he wants to do anyway (I’m not saying that in a bad way). He may have hit a brick wall with this, though.

    If he wants another crack at being an NFL QB, he should go to Canada for a year or two and prove to the NFL coaches that he knows how to pass the ball. Heck, Warren Moon did it.

    • Bird: You write, “He may have hit a brick wall with this, though. If he wants another crack at being an NFL QB, he should go to Canada for a year or two…”

      Multiple NFL voices have said otherwise. Steve Young spent time with Tim the past two off-seasons and he believes that Tim has the makings of a great NFL quarterback and has encouraged Tim to stay the course. Young also encouraged Tim to take a step back and sit a season or two behind one of the great quarterbacks so I was not surprised when I saw this tweet in the spring or that Tim signed with the Patriots.

      Jason Cole ‏@JasonColeYahoo 2 May
      Tiny bit #Tebow news: he’d like to go where he can sit, learn behind great QB & coach. New Orleans would be perfect, for example.

      September 12, 2012

      This from Steve Young in “A Football Life:”

      “What I have a firm belief in now after seeing (Tebow) up close and personal is that HE CAN DO THE JOB. HE HAS THE NATURAL THROWING TALENT TO ACTUALLY PLAY QUARTERBACK IN THE NFL, drop back 40 times and be efficient and be good at it and then possibly great at it…”

      “…you have to deconstruct some of the things and the way that you do it so that you can be more effective. YOU CAN BE REALLY EFFICIENT, YOU CAN BE GREAT… THE SKY IS THE LIMIT!”

      http://www.nfl.com/videos/new-york-jets/0ap1000000061671/A-Football-Life-Tebow-the-quarterback

      Some believe that the “deconstructing” of which Steve Young speaks was happening in Foxborough this summer and they are not yet finished with the “reconstructing,” and thus the pre-season games that were not always the best and the talk of Tebow returning to the Patriots.

    • Tony Dungy, “My advice for Tim… be patient and be faithful God has a spot for you (in the NFL)… (you) will find a spot… wait for the Lord… and be ready to go.”
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2JRnMqsL7c&feature=youtu.be

  13. No push back from me. I am a Christ follower who also happens to be an avid supporter of Tim’s. I support his foundation as well.

    This was a very well done piece. You have written many of the thoughts in my own head. Being a minister to children I appreciate how you brought the impact to them into your view.

    The one area where I disagree is Tim’s motivation for not entertaining the position change. I do not think it is pride. First of all I do beleive that he genuinely loves playing that position and it is the only one he knows. At this stage in an NFL career not too many would be ‘re-positioning’ themselves. Coming right out of college is one thing. Almost four years in is another.

    More to the point…I do beleive that Tim (as well as many of his fans…see comment by Lynn above) beleive that his ability to be used by God is tied to him being a qb in the NFL. I do beleive that has been ingrained in him and the beleif runs deep.

    Of course God does not need Tim to be a qb in the NFL or in the NFL at all. He doesn’t need him to be a football player. He doesn’t need him to be famous. All he needs is for Tim to be surrendered to His will. Period. Many don’t understand that. I know because I try to explain it frequently.

    • LAC: “I do believe that Tim (as well as many of his fans…see comment by Lynn above) believe that his ability to be used by God is tied to him being a QB in the NFL. I do believe that has been ingrained in him and the belief runs deep.”

      That is not what I wrote and I do not believe that accurately represents Tim’s belief. It’s not that Tim has to play in the NFL to be used by God. Tim wants to be an NFL QB and he (and many in the NFL the media do not report) believe that God has gifted him in that way – and so he uses football as a vehicle for the gospel and for the glory of God.

      Tim is young, he just turned 26, and he is a millionaire. He is not homeless and refusing gainful employment immediately available while he pursues a pipedream.

      Why ever in the world are so many clamoring for Tim to change positions or change professions?

      “All he needs is for Tim to be surrendered to His will. Period.”

      LAC, if you are a Tebow fan, then surely you know that he is above all else surrendered to God’s will for his life. Tim just does not believe he needs to listen to all the many voices who want to tell him what God’s will is for him. Yea for Tim Tebow, who does not know the meaning of the word “peer pressure.” Tim only has to conform to the will of God, not the will of the evangelical church in America.

  14. Well, you could be right.

    I am totally sick of the “you can do anything if you put your mind to it message”, bc it’s totally not true. Even with hard work some things are just not gonna happen. & who knows? Maybe Tim is stubborn? I don’t know him & unless you know him, you can’t call him stubborn either.

    However, maybe it’s not his dream he’s following? Maybe it is God’s plan for him, but His time is just very different than ours. Tim’s still young. Who knows what his future holds? Perhaps all this craziness is happening now so that 40yrs from now God will give him something to say & people will listen…simply bc he couldn’t play the current NFL style.

    If the man wants to try to do something hard, let him. We’re so used to being a society that wants things in life to come easy we don’t know what to do with a man who wants to work hard & be persistent. It makes him look like an oddball compared to the rest of us, but I’d love it if more men were like that – we need more people who work hard & give it their all.

    Perhaps all this craziness of Tebowmania was all orchestrated simply to inspire others to love God & love people, & be demonstrative about it? Perhaps he’ll never be an NFL QB, but maybe his story inspired just 1 woman to choose life for her baby, or encourage someone to become a missionary? We’ll probably never know.

  15. Absolutely spot on!!! Very well said. Thank you

  16. Maybe we need to have a discussion about idolizing celebrity Christians, but why in the world does anyone think they know God’s will for Tim Tebow better than he knows it himself? And how many are writing here about Tebow being proud and stubborn and they could not possibly know his heart? We would all do well to consider Matthew 7 and the beam in our own eye and leave Tebow to take care of the splinter in his – if indeed there even is a splinter – I find the kid to be incredibly humble and faithful to all things biblical.

    I heard Tim say recently that when he is gone he wants to be remembered as someone who loved God and loved people, but not as a football player. Sounds like Matthew 22:34-40, ya think? I really think Tebow could do without all the Christian critics.

  17. Men and boys, especially those in prison, are more willing to hear Tebow preach the gospel than someone in vocational ministry because he is tough, a man’s man, whereas the minister is often seen as weak. It has little to nothing to do with being a celebrity.

    Tebow is using all he has and is for the glory of God and seemingly living an exemplary and moral life and I just don’t get all the criticism and doubly so from Christians.

  18. “It is not helpful, nor even Christian, to not be honest about Tim Tebow.”

    What about being honest about Tim Tebow’s fans? The fans and the media have hurt Tim’s opportunity in the NFL a lot especially as a backup; many team VIPs consider him toxic because of the media circus and the overbearing fans.

    It is a widely held belief that the fans moved Tebow into the starting position in Denver instead of waiting for him to earn it fairly and there is a lot of fan animosity towards him as a result.

    As others have stated the persecution thing is the fans and not Tebow and the whole Tebow fan thing divides team fans and is not wanted by team management.

    Unfortunately, Tim Tebow’s fans do not share the same good reputation as Tim himself.

  19. We will not properly understand the gospel if we do not properly understand the law. So how do we “think evangelically (evangel = gospel) about Tim Tebow,” if we ignore the moral law, particularly the requirements of the fourth commandment?

    Exodus 20:8-11: “Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: but the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.”

    Isaiah 58:13, 14: “If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words: then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.”

    See the Westminster Confession of Faith, 21.7, 8; Westminster Larger Catechism, Q. 115-121; Westminster Shorter Catechism, Q. 57-62.

  20. I first think of Tebow as a person who is made in the image of God.Thus, he deserves a certain amount of respect. Second, he is a fellow believer and thus he merits a special concern. Third, if we care more about him because of his celebrity status, are we not showing at least a similar kind of preference that James warns against?

    Tim Tebow is not some object to bring us football glory or evangelical influence. The moment we think of him that way becomes the moment we stop caring about him as God would have us care about any other person or fellow believer. In addition, with regards to Tebow not bringing a celebrity impact to evangelism, we need to remember Paul’s constant teaching on relying on anything besides God’s Word and His Spirit to save the lost.

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  22. Tim Tebow warms the heart of some Christians … Other believers see a man working on Sunday and praying in public … Non believers often see a man whose prayers are not always answered … Most importantly we don’t know how the Holy God sees Tim; that will have to wait … but God’s gracious blessings will continue to shower down on Tim as one door closes and Tim walks through another: hopefully on a path to bring glory and honor to God and His name

  23. I agree with the author’s analysis. Love Tebow. Also realize he’s not an NFL QB.

    But I would go further than the author. As a lifelong football fan, it pains me to say this, but football has become a huge idol in America. Despite what the church-growth pundits might say, I am convinced that NFL football is the main reason for what I consider to be the devaluation of the Lord’s Day (and the demise of the Sunday evening service).

    Sadly, if many Christians compared the devotional time they spent on football with the time spent in Bible reading/prayer/fellowship, the latter categories would lag far behind.

  24. Jared
    Although there is much in the article I agree with: we should have a sense of humor, we should be careful not to idolize people.
    . I think Tim has become type of Rorschach test on which people project here own ideas, thoughts, concerns, angst about the church, and Christianity. I have a different perspective regarding some of the points you raised
    Firstly I do not know Tim and from your article neither do you so it’s incredible presumptuous to sit in judgment of his thoughts, motives, faith and walk with God.
    As fellow believers we should be encouraging him to seek the will of God regarding his life and specifically regarding playing quarterback in the NFL. We should encourage him to seek God not our opinions or thoughts. If he is sure that being a quarterback is God’s will for this season of his life we should encourage him keep on persevering, to focus on God not people’s opinions and negativity. If God’s will for his life is playing another position or doing something else should pray that he will hear God’s voice clearly, that he will find peace and joy in this new season in his life.
    I believe that Christianity has become infected with a fast food mentality. Everything should be easy, convenient and cheap. In reality we like the slogan don’t give up but at the first sign of struggle or difficulty we counsel change, giving up .If we look at the heroes of faith in the bible their life stories are ones of struggle or valleys of believing God even when every circumstance, every person would have told them to abandon ship. In my own walk with Christ I have experienced it again and again that even when I are 100% in the center of God’s will it does not mean that there is no obstacles, no struggles, no well-meaning people telling you that you are wrong.

  25. Well said! You nailed it!

  26. I really appreciated your post especially regarding who the Lord often uses vs. the fascination-bordering-on-NEED that Christian Culture seems to have that it be a Wow-Factor person-of-interest. I’d never thought about the “martyr” aspect, but I confess that you are on to something. Frankly, I’m more of a dead-theologians fan~they, at least, can’t get into too many scrapes. And I really appreciated Don Carson’s book about his dad “Memoirs of an Ordinary Pastor”. Pedestal-people are people that, of course, we should pray for, but I pity them as well. They face temptations that ordinary Jo’s (and Joe’s) like me don’t.

    I could care less about football and didn’t even know that Tebow was signed –and cut from the Patriots (I did know that was the name of a football team), but I am aware of the adulation of Christian athletes.

    Thank you for your post. I have been given much to think over [as I have no smart-phone or tablet to distract!!!]

    • Kim: Many Christians have been posting in sports blogs that all Tim Tebow’s football woes are the result of bias against Christians and persecution, etc. A new wave hit immediately as soon as the Patriots released him last week – even though Tim was highly complementary of the New England organization. If ture at all (and there likely is some truth in it at least in the media) it cannot be proven, and even if proven, it still is counterproductive to whine about it in sports blogs. It really gets the world enraged and hurts the cause of Christ. Tim has never suggested any such thing.

      I had to smile at your non-interest in football. That has been me too, until Tebow, and do I truly respect and admire the young man. Although God certainly works greatly through the little person who is not in the limelight, to me, Tim is an example of the difference just one person can make in our culture. Some of the things Tim has done (i.e. the scripture verses on his eye black) I would not have done and even would have said they were completely hokey. However, I cannot deny that God has used them – and it makes me wonder how much we have lost as Americans when the church at-large became very much like the world and in turn lost her voice and testimony.

      Like you, I have no smartphone, but I don’t want to make that a measure of spirituality. Above all the Tebow din I am most offended at Christians who judge him in public forums and sometimes it seems like judging is what we do best.

  27. I am a sports fan and I love to see Christian athletes excel and have their platform. But they can also excel in their “failures.” Tim Tebow would be a wonderful testimony if he chose to give up football and give himself to full time vocational ministry, if God has called him to that. Or, he will be successful if he continues to battle, gets another NFL opportunity, and excels, or sits on the bench. It is not a matter of what he’s doing, but what God wills. I think he is following what he believes is God’s will for him. I think he has the right perspective on winning, losing, starting, not starting, getting cut, or not getting cut. I think this article is so spot on for the rest of us. We need to keep things in perspective. Athletics is only a platform when God deems it to be. Another’s platform may be an actual platform where a guy is driving nails or carrying boxes. God may give us a platform of millions, or three, and we should embrace whatever He chooses.

  28. Did Jesus not discourage standing in the public place making a display out of prayers like the Pharisees? How does that play into “Tebowing”?

    • Darrell: I believe that Jesus “discouraged” being a hypocrite… don’t pray in public TO BE SEEN OF MEN. Tim Tebow prays in public to humble himself in situations where he might be prone to beat his chest and exalt self like most football players do when they score and win.

      • Hi Bob, maybe… I don’t know. My Biblical reference might not really apply here, as you suggest. I just wonder if maybe Tim overdoes it. There are lots of accomplished athletes who have great testimonies, use the platform for good things, and are effective witnesses in both public and private. Part of Tebow’s appeal no doubt has to do with his amazing college performance and his charismatic personality. But loads of it has to do with his practice of bowing down in prayer, to be seen by the people in the stands and the cameras. Why not just high five your teammates and hand the ball to the ref?

        • Darrell: Many athletes past and present have taken a knee on the gridiron and it didn’t get the press that Tebow did in Denver. I read someone online recently mockingly say there was no “Tebowing” with the Jets or Patriots, but in fact, Tim’s habit never changed, only the press coverage. You are welcome to your opinion, but if we are going to sling around scripture I would suggest you try Matthew 18 and reconsider your public rebuke of one clearly a brother in Christ.

          • Easy there Bob. I conceded to you that the Scripture that I “slung” around may have been out of proper context, then you went and did it for reals. Besides, I am not attempting to rebuke Tim, only ask a question on a public forum about a public figure. Sorry.

  29. Was a good read, although I see persistence, not pride. It provoked good conversation in my family about the line (if there is one) between God’s leading/timing/calling and overcoming obstacles. The conversation ended when my wife said “I’m glad I’m not famous enough to have every decision and word evaluated by the masses.” True enough.

  30. If idolizing a subpar quarterback who is not the only Christian in the league, while ignoring other Christian NFL players because they don’t look like Tebow, isn’t enough to expose the absurdity of racialism in American evangelicalism, I don’t know what is.

    • John: Tim Tebow is likely the most beloved athlete in America Christian or otherwise of any skin color. Did you happen to notice that Tebow is not only more highly esteemed than many “black” Christian athletes, but also more than other “white” Christian athletes as well??? It’s not about race; sorry!

      You might be interested in Ken Hamm’s work on racism; there is only one race – the human race. http://www.answersingenesis.org/

    • John,

      The myopia that clings to your comment is astounding. Tebow is one of the top 10 best college football players to ever play the college game. Because of this fact, Tebow was drafted to the NFL in the first round.

      After being drafted, Tebow abided his time in Denver until a 1 and 4 start by Kyle Orton (and this is after Orton had a dismal season the year before) gave Tebow the right to play. (Again, first round draft pick at quarterback – which he earned – and the starter, Kyle Orton, is struggling significantly).

      Then Tebow wins wins wins all the way to a playoff victory and the best and most significant moment at Mile High Stadium in over a decade. Tebow kept starting in Denver, because after the first week, he kept winning and winning. Week after week he continued to earn the right to keep playing because he kept winning. What was Fox supposed to do? Take out his winning quarterback? Of course not.

      Then what happens? By all accounts he is shafted by the Jets and not given a chance to start even when Sanchez repeatedly can’t deliver.

      The notion that Tebow has been given more than he has earned is ignorant (and that’s the best construction on it).

      Tebow is given more spotlight about his faith than other NFL players because he is BY FAR the most outspoken Christian in the NFL.

      I am an academic at a secular college who teaches and does research regarding social justice concerns. As such I work directly with marginalized and disenfranchised groups. The notion that Tebow’s popularity is about race is intellectually bankrupt, purblind, dubious, and disingenuous. Your comment about race in this context actually undermines and distracts from real and actual concerns related to race in the U.S.

  31. Thank you for expressing what I was having difficulty in expressing to my son, long time Patriot and Tebow fan. For what it is worth I found your points valid and truthful in a time when people never want to accept they do not possess some type of untapped talent or skill. Maybe it is because it is difficult and unglamouress to live simply, not seek notoriety and to get up for work each day.

  32. I was rooting for Tebow, but in the end you are right – football is football. Following your dreams sometimes simply isn’t good advice.

  33. I appreciate Tebow for many reasons, a key one being HIS PLAY AT QUARTERBACK IN THE NFL. Tebow has had 16 starts. He is 9 and 7 as a starter which includes a playoff victory. And not just any playoff victory…the most exciting and significant game for the city of Denver in over 10 years.

    In his first 16 starts, Tebow has a better won-loss record than several Hall of Fame quarterbacks had in their first 16 starts. Out of the over 70+ quarterbacks currently on teams in the NFL, Tebow’s winning percentage is better than over half of them. The most important stat in football, by far, is wins and losses.

    Let the boy play!

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  35. I liked this post, I don’t care about football, but I find Tebow interesting and of course I care about how he acts as a Christian and how Christians act about him.

    I do think it’s ok for him to keep dreaming if he wants – as long as he isn’t getting prideful about it. People dream, it doesn’t have to be a bad thing even if the dream is impossible.

    Maybe that just shows how little I know about football, but I think as long as he continues to do his best for the teams he’s on….well what’s the harm in him hoping to improve himself that much one day?

  36. I agree with the post. We all stop playing football at some point, some just do it earlier. It may well be that the time to stop has come.

    I know it is painful when a dream dies. I’ve seen it happen to friends from college who thought they’d be doctors only to fail admission to medical school. A college friend dreamed of acting on Broadway, and now does something else.

    Its a common part of life.

    The difference is Tim will do all of this in public, and so I pray for him.

    I cannot imagine going through that sort of pain in front of an uncaring world.

  37. I agree with what you have written, said the same thing ,after the brother was cut . God bless him.

  38. Hey man, good word!

    I was actually praying for Tebow today, (seriously! I felt bad for the guy), but I wasn’t sure how to pray because I wasn’t sure if he was going through all this drama as a result of his vocal faith or if he, (forgive my language) sucked as a first string quarterback. I did ask that God would help him discern his next steps though, whether it’s another position on the field or in the pulpit. Every sports network I’ve watched all seem to indicate that he’s not that strong in the QB position, bummer!

    Anyway, just wanna say thanks for verbalizing what I think I was trying to pray for him! No push back here!

  39. Brendt Wayne Waters

    Even though I disagree with the oft-parroted “he’s not an NFL QB” (by whose definition?) mantra, I was going to keep my mouth shut, as a lot of the non-football-specific stuff you had to say is very good.

    But do you honestly expect anyone to take anything you say seriously when you state that Tebow has had “ample opportunity”?

    • Last time I checked, NFL coaches, owners, and players cared about one thing. If they thought Tim could win, they’d sign him. Here in Canada, of course it has been raised that maybe a team here would sign him. The consensus is that they might, not because anyone thinks he could play the CFL game, but that he would be good for the gate.

      • Brendt Wayne Waters

        Players have no say in who is going to be on a team, so I’ll exclude them from the argument. That said, the “last time [you] checked” must have been at least 30-40 years ago. The primary focus (with #2 being a DISTANT second) of GMs, owners, and the league is money. Winning is nothing more than a tool that is good at generating that money. But I’ll throw a bone to the one or two people in the entire league that care about winning, and we’ll keep that into the analysis.

        That said, even to say that “ALL they care about is money and winning” is inaccurate. And so to say, “well, if they thought they’d get wins/money out of Tebow, they’d sign him” is equally invalid.

        Remember when Vick got out of jail? Some organizations passed on him, and while they may have cited football reasons, it was clear that that was a bunch of baloney. They didn’t want PETA protests outside their stadium. They didn’t want soccer moms all over the city withholding from their husbands because the husbands dared go to a game. In short, they didn’t want the drama. And they weren’t willing to roll the dice that the drama would be outweighed by the money and wins. While I’m no fan of Vick’s, such cowardice is hardly in line with the image the NFL is trying to project.

        Tebow is also polarizing (though in the opposite direction) and any team that picked him up would have to deal with a much more significant force than PETA and soccer moms — blowhards in sports media and the legion of watchers/listeners/readers that let the blowhards do their thinking for them. But regardless of the blowhards and their fans, Tebow is an exciting player — even those that think he has no talent admit that. And exciting players put butts in seats (read: MONEY) and get people to tune in (read: MONEY) and sell jerseys (read: MONEY).

        And as to wins, there are teams out there that have no shot whatsoever, so what do they have to lose? “Let’s see, we can go 4-12 and have no one watching, or we can go 4-12 and have lots of people watching and buying $47 beers at the stadium and sell lots of jerseys. I say we go with the first option.”

        • Brendt: So, are you saying Tebow is not on a team because he is polarizing? Many people think that very thing, but I am not entirely sure of your point given how you ended.

          I like your analogy of Michael Vick and it actually occurred to me that Roger Goodell might even reach out a helping hand to Tebow as he did Vick.

          • Brendt Wayne Waters

            Not solely, but his polarizing nature is perhaps the largest overlooked issue in why he isn’t with an NFL team. You state that “[m]any people think that very thing” — I haven’t heard a single one of them. Everyone I’ve ever heard either blames some kooky anti-Christian conspiracy theory or parrots the old (and utterly meaningless) mantra that “he’s not an NFL QB”. The consideration of other possibilities is rarer than a steak while the cow is still alive.

            My point toward the end was that, even if you buy into the “all they care about is money” baloney, that’s not even a viable excuse for all 32 teams to pass on him. While there are some organizations out there who truly could not benefit from him, there are many who are passing up a goldmine.

  40. Lincoln’s Road to the White House
    Failed in business in 1831
    Defeated for Legislature in 1832
    Second failure in business is 1833
    Suffers nervous breakdown in 1836
    Defeated for Speaker in 1838
    Defeated for Elector in 1840
    Defeated for Congress in 1843
    Defeated for Congress in 1848
    Defeated for Senate in 1855
    Defeated for Vice President in 1856
    Defeated for Senate in 1858
    Elected President in 1860.

    I wonder what America would be like if Lincoln had this mentality…

  41. The Bills?! Really?! That’s crossing a red line!

  42. After your public admission of being a Patriot’s fan, I almost quit reading realizing such a person has little to say. But, putting off that disturbing remark, I found the post excellent! Thank you. I’m a Broncos fan (a type of person you can look up to) and I really loved Tebow’s run here in Denver and was extremely relieved when Peyton came to town.

  43. “When we insist that his being cut is the result of his outspoken faith…” Oh my goodness, do people really say this? Anyone who thinks his inability to land a stable NFL job has ANYTHING to do with his religious beliefs is just trying to reinforce their own bizarre and delusional evangelical persecution complex.

    You are right that determination is not a uniquely Christian virtue. But are any virtues uniquely Christian?

    I think the best thing he did for the evangelical community was when he bowed out of a speaking engagement at First Baptist Church of Dallas after learning what an extremist its pastor, the Reverend Dr. Robert Jeffress, is. Very classy of Tebow to know where to draw the line.
    (http://saveobu.blogspot.com/2013/02/tim-tebow-fbc-dallas-and-evangelical.html)

    He’s already stayed relevant long enough to get a life tenured job on the fundy athletes’ lecture circuit. He may never draw a salary (let alone a pension) from the NFL, but he’ll grow richer as the years go on.

  44. Great article. But, wondering if you contacted Tebow before pointing out that maybe he has a pride issue on playing another position? I think that it might be gracious to talk to him before making it public. I believe you have some wisdom you could share with him.

  45. I’ll offer a little push back… I don’t disagree on most points, and don’t know anything about Tim Tebow to comment on his personal pride issues or lack there of, but if Tim Tebow wants to keep trying to be an NFL quarterback, I got no problem with that. Do I think he can be one, probably not, but just because it’s a difficult road doesn’t mean it’s not going to happen, ask Doug Flutie or Kert Warner. And just because it’s a difficult road and it never happens doesn’t mean God can’t teach Tim Tebow a lot about Himself through the difficulty or use him for His glory along the way. What’s the worst that can happen? He keeps getting cut from football teams? Who cares. He may never be an nfl QB, but all this may lead to something else that all the lessons he’s learned a long the way are forging something in him for what’s next. History is riddled with success stories of people who didn’t give up and had great success either in the career they hoped for or in some other area. Someday Tim Tebow will have to hang up the cleats, whether he has achieved his dream of being an NFL QB or not is ultimately irrelevant, how he has glorified the Lord in the pursuit is much more important.

  46. And it could be that, in being cut by the Patriots and ushered out of the NFL, Tim Tebow is being graciously spared from the very real prospect of serious, irreversible brain damage.

  47. This is a silly post. Tim Tebow is popular because he is charismatic. He’s also persecuted by the NFL establishment as a player. Allow me to explain some inside NFL to a naive evangelical. Coaching staffs have one goal: keep their jobs. They want at all cost to avoid two things: 1. a spotlight on their team; 2. raised expectations to win. Thus for the average NFL coaching staff (which is where the NFL establishment most is felt) an 8-8 season is *ideal.* It means, “We’re making good progress.” And, job security in most franchises who have a low expectation of winning based on history. Tim Tebow upsets all of that to a hallucinogenic degree. He brings an intense national and media spotlight. He also brings expectations of winning. Every game. Every down.

    No other first round QB has been treated like Tim Tebow. Especially with what he has already accomplished in the league. He has a winning record as a starter, and he has a playoff win under his belt. In that playoff win he was in full command. Think of other recent young quarterbacks in their first playoff game. Andrew Luck was overwhelmed, for instance. The atheists have kept up the lie that he can’t throw. He still hold passing records in the toughest conference in college football, and when he was allowed to be himself in the NFL you saw the result (pull the trigger). He hasn’t been given the time to progress that any other first round QB would be given, and he’s been held to a “no defect standard”, actually a standard of perfection by the media and other haters on the internet. Think about it: he had to take Denver to a Superbowl victory (a 1 and 4 team with a decade of losing behind it) or get kicked out of the NFL.

    • A few thoughts:

      1) The NFL has a large number of Christians, all of whom are highly regarded.

      2) 8-8 will get you fired quickly unless you’re a bottom-level team that has a long history of losing. even then, after a few 8-8 seasons fans will demand more.

      3) Teams want raised expectations. Raised expectations = ticket sales and merchandise sales.

      4) All players have an expectations of winning every down. Do you think Tom Brady or Ray Lewis ever figured it was okay to fumble or give up a touchdown? These players are in the NFL because they’re the best players in the world. Even the players on the worst teams are better than 99% of college players.

      5) Not sure what you mean by Tebow being treated differently. All players are expected to excel. Tebow didn’t.

      6) Tebow did okay in his only playoff win, but he didn’t win that game. The Steelers lost it. On the final play the Steelers were in goalline defense in the middle of the field. That means that they had no players prepared for a long pass. That is a strategic mistake of gargantuan proportions. Teams aren never supposed to play goalline defense unless their opponent is about to score. You or I could have thrown that winning pass and won the game.

      7) College records are irrelevant to the NFL. The 2 college quarterbacks with the most TD’s are David Klingler and Colt Brennan. If you’ve never heard of them, there’s a reason why. They were horrible NFL quarterbacks.

      8) Tebow completed 47% of his NFL passes. In preseason he completed 37%. That is epically bad. Even the worst QB’s complete more than 50%.

      • The 47% completion doesn’t say as much as you want it to. He’s not a very accurate passer compared to NFL QBs. But that assumes that passing is the only thing he brings to the table. The Broncos led the league in rushing because of Tebow. RG3 did the same thing to Washington’s run game. Morris and McGahee both had great seasons running the ball because of the threat their QB presented. I’m not saying it makes Tebow a great QB but you have to forgive some of the inaccuracy when you consider that. Also, i wonder what his numbers look like if you just calculate when he was running the spread. I’m guessing they’re much better. There are many QBs I’d rather have on my team than Tebow. That said, i’d definitely take him over Gabbert, Ponder, Freeman and maybe Weeden. The jury is still out on Manuel, Geno, and Pryor but they don’t seem to offer that much.

    • But he’s no Peyton Manning.

  48. Jared -

    Thank you for writing your commentary. I agree with much of what you said — to a point — and I enjoyed reading it. That being said, one thing it doesn’t take into account is thinking outside the box…i.e. excepting the fact that conventional thinking has never, and perhaps WILL never, apply when it comes to Tim Tebow. Yes, it’s true…maybe…that Tim Tebow, exciting as he is to watch, and enormously successful as he has been whenever and wherever he was given the starter job on virtually every football team he has ever played for that, in reality, despite all that…as all the so-called “experts” seem to say, Tim just isn’t good enough. I guess if enough people say that, we’re suppose to believe it…even Tim Tebow himself should believe it…or should he? For that matter, should we? If ANYONE can name a single football team for which Tim Tebow has had a LOSING season as their starter, please clue me in — because I’ve yet to hear of such a thing. Tim managed to take his high school to a state championship, his college to 2 National championships (as the youngest Heisman Trophy winner at the time) and even the Broncos to the playoffs (and a playoff WIN no less) for the first time in years. Does it really matter ONLY to the Tebow faithful that Tim Tebow is the ONLY Heisman Trophy-winner in the past quarter century to actually win a playoff game in the NFL? Is he REALLY “not good enough”, or has this been such a snow-ball of so called “conventional thinking” that the experts and decision-makers have completely forgotten the most important aspect, and possible the best asset of Tim Tebow’s “unique” and endlessly debated skill set — the fact that they ARE decidedly unconventional — one of the things that makes him potentially dangerous to opponents.

    Now, you may have noticed that I have not once mentioned Tim Tebow’s “Faith”. Why? Because Tebow being a devout Christian, even an outspoken one, is not exactly new in the NFL. The only difference is, Tim Tebow is most famous among them. Maybe it’s because Tim Tebow is one of the few, if not only NFL player who not only was asked if he is a virgin…he actually admitted to it..and proudly. He’s also arguably the most successful college quarterback to ever play in the NCAA ranks, and even THIS fact doesn’t sit well with the Tebow-naysayer. How dare he wear that honor…his mechanics suck…according to Stephen A Smith, “He Can’t Throw” (forget that Tim Tebow, NOT Peyton Manning, holds the Denver Bronco playoff record for completed passing yard (316)…How many times have we heard “He could never cut it in the NFL”, regardless of the fact that Tim Tebow electrifying first “starting” season at the broncos was something that captivated, not just football fans, but the entire country. Was that an overzealous media latching on the the latest story du jour, or was it America simply rooting for a seeming underdog who just kept winning…and winning…and winning…often-times in edge-of-your-seat nail biting skin-oh-his-teeth fashion, but no less exhilarating (and sometimes even cringe-inducing) to watch.

    Who says every quarterback in the NFL has to be of the caliber of Tim Brady? Talk about “unrealistic expectations” — a quarterback of Tom Brady’s talent and consistency paired with the perfect coach to gleen the very best from his quarterback comes around once in a generation. How many quarterbacks currently starting in the NFL this season who have never, nor will they EVER make the playoffs, much less win a playoff game? Are their STATS what really count…or is it the fact that they had enough wins to get their team into the post season. I would argue that STATS, do not win Super Bowls, players with heart and the will to fight for that win to the very last second of the game — even if it’s not always pretty to look at.

    What I do know is that Tim Tebow is the perfect candidate who, when someone gets hurt, a surprising mid-season change of events that could have catastrophic effect on a teams win/loss figures, is the one who has the experience under pressure of the bright lights to get that call and make magic happen. You might think this is a pipe dream based on his religion. I say it’s Tebow just being a blessed man who tends to have the last laugh. Counting him out would be a big mistake. His NFL story has a few chapters left to be written.

  49. It should be noted that their was a young 19 year old singer from Brookyln back in the 1960′s who auditioned for the role of “Fanny Brice” in the Broadway stage production of “Funny Girl”. The writer and director didn’t want her because she was a relative unknown with very little experience. She ended up landing the part, and later the Tony Award for it. When it came down to casting the role for the movie production, they originally passed on the actress who won the Tony for the role on Broadway. Why? They didn’t think she could carry the movie (which would be her first film) and, more importantly, the producers didn’t think she was “pretty” enough…the camera wasn’t her friend. Regardless, against their better judgement, they cast the young ingenue in her first movie — the adaptation of “Funny Girl”. The young Barbra Streisand not only won the award, she won the Oscar — a 50 year unprecedented career in film (oscars), music (Grammys), broadway (tony’s), concerts, and humanitarian organizations have made the career of Barbra Streisand the stuff of legend. Why? Because she believed. The naysayers simply were blinded to the fact that sometime the “unconventional” is the won to bet on.

  50. I generally appreciate and agree with what you’ve written here. I am also a Patriots fan and a Tebow fan, and for a season I was a Broncos fan because of Tebow. Oh, and of course I now have even more reasons than before to despise the Jets. :)

    From the moment this began I wrote:

    “For Christians who like to cheer for Tim Tebow, I’m with you. I’m having a blast watching the man play, and I think it’s admirable that he’s assertive about his faith, humble about his success, and gracious about his detractors. We do need to be careful about idolizing him, as I’m sure he would be the first to warn us about the dangers of idolatry. He will certainly let us down at times, both in sport and in life, because he is our brother, not our Lord.” (http://www.philippianjailer.com/2012/01/loving-and-hating-tim-tebow.html)

    I don’t fault him too much for believing he can be a professional QB. After all, that season in Denver was truly something to behold.

    • That a bunch of Christians could spend this much time, energy and enthusiasm talking about Tim Tebow, and football in general….. A sport which is played on the Lords day……. Well, it just demonstrates clearly why the church is in such a SAD state in this country! Lord help us……
      To proudly say you have “man crush” on Tom Brady?? As a pastor? Ridiculous……

      • Dear Pious Friend: I am sorry for you. Sometime in eternity, on the New Earth, we are going to play football and Jesus Himself is going to play on Tim Tebow’s team. What position will He play when Tim in our QB? I don’t know, but I hope that you do not miss the game!

      • What is wrong with interacting with culture? Tim Tebow is a wildly popular figure. Talking about Tebow is a way that we as Christians can interact with the people about Tebow’s (and our!) beliefs. If a Christians enjoys sports I think it would be dumb not to seize this opportunity that this Tebow situation has afforded us to talk about our beliefs.

        I also do not see how relaxing on Sunday afternoons and watching TV is a clear demonstration of why our country is in such a “SAD state?” If you could explain that, I would greatly appreciate it!

        • I didn’t say the country…. I said the CHURCH in this country…. Idolizing a sports figure, who happens to be a Christian…… When Tim Tebow’s biggest aspiration is to have a successful career in an industry that requires him to break the Sabbath ? Just seems like we have turned a real corner on the Christian church!

          • Autumn: By no means is Tim Tebow’s highest aspiration to be an NFL quarterback. You obviously are speaking from ignorance.

            Furthermore, we are not idolizing Tim; that is your judgment, not ours and not God’s. However, we do celebrate Tim, enjoy him, and thank God for him.

            Autumn, I was once so very much like you and God in His mercy has delivered me from a good measure of that prideful self-righteous legalism, and my prayer for you is that He would one day soon do that for you as well. Life is so much sweeter on the side of grace where we can even enjoy a brother in Christ playing football (smile). Bless you dear friend.

          • Sorry about the misquote!

            I guess we just have different views as to the Christian Sabbath.

          • Autumn, it would appear that you don’t know much about Tim Tebow. Tim Tebow gives as much of himself off the field as he does on the field. His various charity works with The Tebow Foundation are well-documented. Every game Tim plays in he has something planned for a child or other disadvantaged person invited to the game that he spends time with before the game. Tim also takes part in prayer circles both before and after games. Beyond that, Tim doesn’t just talk the talk of a christian, he walks the walk. He is as fine of an example of true christian role model in the sports or entertainment world that I think I have ever seen. Football is simply something Tim loves to do — it’s something he’s been good at in the past. Nothing wrong with pursuing ones dreams relentlessly, regardless of what they are.

          • You keep using that word (Sabbath). I do not think it means what you think it means.

          • Perhaps I should have said his highest “career” aspiration is to be a quarterback in the NFL… And that does require him to be scheduled to work on Sunday…. Which is the ” Lords day”, “Day of rest”…. “Sabbath”…… At least it used to be! I forgot we are in the age where anyone can choose their own “sabbath”…… One that better fits into their own schedule! (Sarcasm)
            Contrary to all of your opinions, i do know quite a bit about Tim Tebow. How could one
            NOT know a lot about him? He is everywhere in the media. Especilly in evangelical circles! I have no doubt that Tim Tebow is a wonderful young man… A Christian young man…. No doubt that he appears to want to serve The Lord…… My issue is with everyone else’s insistence that he be held up on a pedestal, that people are just so sure that God wants to bless him in the NFL…. When in order for him to be blessed in the NFL , he has to completely disregard Gods biblical command to ” honor the sabbath day and keep it holy” …… ??? Seems pretty contrary to me….. But then again, I am apparently out of touch with the “new” Christian way of doing things… And I am legalistic because I actually think that Sunday should be set aside for The Lord and His worship. Now…. I do enjoy football …. I even watch it on occasion….. But I have not found a scriptural justification for centering an entire Lords day around the enjoyment of a game?!

          • Autumn:

            Col 2
            And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses, 14 by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross. 15 He disarmed the rulers and authorities [2] and put them to open shame, by triumphing over them in him. [3]
            16 Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. 17 These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ.
            Rom 14
            4 Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master [1] that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand.
            5 One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind.

          • Autumn, Amen.

            The Christian Sabbath is one of those things that tends to distinguish “paleo-Calvinists” from “neo-Calvinists.” It is sad that, for an age of “Calvinists” that place so much emphasis on the Puritans, not as much attention is given to their views on worship in general, or on the Sabbath in particular. As they have written quite fully on this subject, I will refrain from entering into argument, and simply refer you to their writings. Jonathan Edwards’ sermons on “The Perpetuity and Change of the Sabbath” would be a good start. James Dennison’s book “The Market Day of the Soul” is a helpful summary of the debates on the Sabbath that took place during the Puritan period, and has an extensive Puritan bibliography on the subject.

            Christ proclaimed Himself to be Lord of the Sabbath. Most professing Christians wish to do away with that Lordship, not from love of Christ and a desire sincerely to obey and to worship Him, but from a love of self and of the world. The Sabbath is a weekly call away from the world, away from self, and back to Christ.

          • Jesus said that his disciples would be known by their love one for the other, not by if or how they keep the Sabbath.

            I cannot help but think if Tim Tebow were part of this discussion that he would find some way to praise you even while you find fault with him.

            Likely, the Tebows are not five-point Calvinists and at the moment I am ashamed to identify myself as one.

            Remember that God used both George Whitfield and John Wesley to bring many into the kingdom. They disagreed on some points of theology, but they respected one another’s faith and faithfulness. That idea seems to escape us today.

          • Brian, love for one another encompasses the “second table” of the law. This does not exclude the commands of the “first table” — unless you believe that we are required to keep commandments 5-10, but are allowed to have other gods, to worship God by images and other false worship, and to blaspheme His holy name.

            Jesus also said, “Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven” (Matthew 5:19). “If ye love me, keep my commandments” (John 14:15). “He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him” (John 14:21). “If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and abide in his love” (John 15:10).

            John also said, “By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous” (1 John 5:2, 3).

          • Sean: I’m not sure why some of these posts allow a reply and others do not… but this is for you… as well as the others who argue with you…

            I am very sad for you dear friend. For fifty years, I was a dispensationalist and an antinomian. I actually did not know why the OT rested between the rich leather covers of my Bible, but I thought it meant little to me. God in His mercy brought me to a deeper, more reformed understanding of scripture about ten years ago and it has been like “Christmas” since. My relationship with God and His Word is so very much richer now, but I am ever mindful that is only because of His grace to me and not at all of myself.

            Many of my “old church” friends believe that all Calvinist are unbearably proud and I have never understood that thinking until now. Our discussion here is not really about what the Bible teaches about the Sabbath (but you cannot seem to get beyond that), but about judging a brother who has a different understanding than our own.

            Tim Tebow is known far-and-wide for his love for our Savior and his love for people. When asked about Tim during the last days he played as a Gator, Urban Meyer spoke of the profound impact Tim had his own life and that of his children, and his unprecedented unselfishness. When asked what was more important to Tim football or evangelism Urban responded, absolutely no question sharing the gospel is far more important to Tim than football.

            I’m sorry, but I don’t believe that my Savior is honored by my being critical of such a brother. I have great appreciation for Tim and for his family, and as for my doctrinal concerns — I pray that God will give them light in His time. But I’m sorry, I really believe that their love and their faithfulness if far more important than their position on non-essential doctrines – and in that I hope my life is even a little bit like theirs.

          • Lynn: I do not personally know Mr. Tebow, just as you do not personally know me.

            Even if you do not believe in the Christian Sabbath, try to put yourself in the shoes of a brother or sister who does. What is to be made of the widespread disregard of the Lord’s Day, not only by the world, but even by professing Christians — even professing Reformed Christians?

            If one believes that “Sunday” football, in particular, has been nearly as responsible as Dispensationalism in this country for the absolute destruction of any concept of the Christian Sabbath; how easily do you suppose we will look at Mr. Tebow and the example he sets? Would to God that he could take such a stand, and set such an example, as men like Eric Liddell or Euan Murray. Faithfulness in this matter would almost undoubtedly cost him any hopes in the NFL.

            I don’t know how to express to you in words strongly enough, that the Sabbath is far, far more important than you’re making it out to be. God’s holy worship, and His holy day that He has personally set apart for that purpose, is incalculably precious. And to see it bartered away for a stupid game that doesn’t really matter in the long run is one of the greatest failings of the professing church in America today. There will be no revival of true, biblical Christianity in our day without a return to a robust understanding of the Christian Sabbath.

            I know the emphasis has been on the negative side of the Sabbath (Sabbath-breaking); but here’s the positive: “If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words: then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it” (Isaiah 58:13, 14). Delighting in God and being blessed by Him is no small matter! Ultimately, we want to see you, Lynn, and Mr. Tebow, and everyone else to experience this. But here, God connects these things to our dutiful observance of His holy day. May God open our eyes (Psalm 119:18), enlarge our hearts (Psalm 119:32), and teach us (Psalm 119:68), that we may keep this commandment.

          • Sean:

            “There will be no revival of true, biblical Christianity in our day without a return to a robust understanding of the Christian Sabbath.”

            I think you have that backwards, but I am finished debating this subject with you.

          • Sean: Never mind the tables of the law. Jesus said His disciples would be known by their love, end of story.

  51. I dig it. Thanks for the thoughts bro.

  52. Autumn, I would suggest that you are not so much “out of touch” as you are taking the scriptures WAY to literally and being very rigid, leaving no room for deviations that God would likely have no problem with — so why should YOU?

    First off, to take so literally God’s command to ”honor the sabbath day and keep it holy” is to say that anyone and everyone who is a christian, but due to their career have to work on Sunday, are somehow breaking the rules. Millions of Christians honor God not only on the Sabbath day, but EVERY day. Just because they hapen to have to work on Sunday doesn’t mean they are not “keeping it holy”. Also, God gives each of us our own special brand of talent. In Tim Tebow’s case, that talent is as a football player who was talented enough to make it to the NFL. I would suggest that this might be a part of “God’s plan” and, like it or not, NFL games are mostly played on Sunday.

  53. Jared,
    As a 5th generation on my dad’s side and 3rd generation native of CO on my mom’s, I’m a life-long Bronco fan. My dad’s had season tickets since 1970. I watched many any Elway 4th quarter comeback in person. I’m a pastor here in Denver.

    Nothing was more enjoyable than the 2011 season – both as a Christian and Bronco fan. The things that went on that fall on the field were (even to unbelievers’ admissions) akin to divine intervention. I’ve never seen anything like it – and I don’t know if we ever will again. As a result, the nation was talking about things – due to Tim’s convictions, leadership and play – that had never been discussed with such passion and polarization. Sports talk shows here in Denver were hours-long discussions about theology, the Bible, the gospel, and religion. The national shows were similar. It was hard to believe with one’s ears. It was a great opportunity for the gospel to be discussed and proclaimed – without the typical postmodern “keep-it-to-yourself/I-don’t-want-to-hear it” knee-jerk reactions. Looking back, we may view it historically as the cresting of a decades-long build-up of Christian masculinity within the sports culture.

    I was initially disappointed and angry when I knew Tim was done here – and Peyton was on his way in. But, as time has increased and emotion decreased, I began to realize more and more what I knew deep down even while Tim was here: the young man can’t play QB in the NFL. I so appreciate your bluntness in points “5.” and “6.” in your article. I also began to see with greater clarity what some media was saying even during the Broncos’ run in 2011 – which is this: the credibility of Christians is greatly undermined when “we” argue for things that are objectively obvious. We’re seen as “those idiots” who not only disbelieve the “factual evidence” of the scientific research on a (fill-in-the-blank) topic, but also think a guy who clearly can’t play Q in the NFL can, in fact, do so – simply because he’s “one of our guys” (culturally) and works so hard/is determined (personally). If the latter was the case – with any given job – a lot of us would be more significant than we currently are – not to mention successful (as the world defines significance and success).

    Furthermore, I agree with what you imply: Tim’s making himself look foolish (and even naively proud) with his insistence on his “dream.” We would do well as evangelicals to hold his dream at arm’s length while still embracing him as our brother.

    P.S. I finished THE EXPLICIT GOSPEL yesterday. Great work! Thank you!

    • You need to watch Braveheart to understand the heart of Tim Tebow. I watched it again Monday, and I have a hunch Tim may have watched it again too (smile).

      After losing my husband to emphysema 16 months ago and struggling with C. diff for two years (contracted while my husband was hospitalized) I am now fighting against the tide of “public opinion” to return to college and sit for the CPA exam at the age of sixty. Why? Because I believe the God has things still for me to do in this life and Tim Tebow’s tenacity has challenged me to dig deep for the strength to follow my dreams for this final chapter of my life. I am also studying for NANC certification so I can formally counsel women in my church.

      Tim has shown me how very much just one person can accomplish for Christ both in the secular world and in the church just by being faithful to God’s unique calling on their lives and using the gifts that He has given for His glory – even when all the world stands against you.

      Maybe Tim will be an NFL QB again and maybe he will not, but my life is just one of many profoundly influenced by his struggle and by his faithfulness.

      I am guessing that many contributing to this discussion have never heard Tim speak formally and have never read his book and thus do not really know his heart. The following are the briefest of excerpts from a message he gave just before the 2010 NFL draft. He has since spoken the same basic message, somewhat enhanced, to tens of thousands of people.

      Stand Alone; How to have a life of significance & purpose (2.48)
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=ZHr2nMOP3mA&NR=1

      Who Holds My Future; He is leading even when He does not make it clear (1.25)
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlVjHVcPKPs&feature=endscreen&NR=1

      John 3:16; 94 million people Google the reference (3.16)
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq4Pl4XSkWM&NR=1&feature=endscreen

      Being a Servant; who are you loving today? (1.50)
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhq4H58oMHE

      Finish Strong; better than a Heisman or any trophy (2.44)
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5z41onp450

  54. Ryan -

    I get where you are coming from…and it ALL may be true…MAYBE…because miracles can and do happen. Call it “Blind Faith” if you must, but as long as Tim Tebow is believing in himself enough to proclaim publicly that he’s still actively pursuing his dream to play QB in the NFL, I’m believing in his ability to make that dream come true. I have seen far too many QB in the NFL with far less talent, success, and victories than Tim has had — some of them starters in the NFL to this very day. More than a dozen of them have never made an NFL playoff, and may never make one.

    That all being said, watch something happen in the weeks and months to come — an injury, an arrest, some other out of left field factor — that brings Tim back into the NFL if for no other reason than, of the choices available, he’s the only one who could be thrown into the fire at a moments notice and withstand the immense pressure of the spotlight on him at that moment. If/when that happens, this is when you will see miracles occur. It will take exactly ONE major victory with Tim Tebow at QB to turn all the so-called “experts” and Tebow-naysayers into babbling mush. God works in strange and mysterious ways, and if you don’t it is in the realm of possibilities that maybe — just MAYBE — all of this adversity and ridicule and doors being slammed in Tim Tebow’s face have all been for a greater purpose — The Ultimate Comeback — then maybe you need to learn to have just a little more faith.

    • Todd,
      Brother, I’m troubled by your syncretistic comment above – namely, your concept of belief/faith is a dangerous intermixture of confidence in Tim Tebow (and his “dream”) and God. I think this is what our brother, Jared Wilson, is warning against in the article.
      In Christ,
      Ryan

  55. A sad commentary on how worldly Gospel Coalition readers are: the Gospel Coalition article on Tim Tebow has over 100 comments to date, but an article on the horrible practice of selling little girls into “marriages” to adult males (pedophile rapists), a horror that affect millions of women worldwide, has only about a dozen comments.
    (9 Things You Should Know About Child Brides: http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/tgc/2013/08/21/9-things-you-should-know-about-child-brides/)

    That show what wrong order of priorities people have.

    I can’t help but wonder how much money most of these readers spend on sports in a year, when over a 100 girls rescued from the hell of human trafficking by http://www.crisisrescueinternational.com are still in need of sponsors (see the 2-minute video about these little girls https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq3C18WzOCw).

    • Thomas: We are discussing probably the one person among us actually invested in a big way in helping the cause that concerns you – and with the platform to influence others to join in the effort.

      Although I believe the cry of “Christian persecution” against Tim Tebow is abhorrent, I have no doubt that his battle is both one of the fundamentals of NFL football and one that is spiritual in nature.

      “While most college students are enjoying spring break on the beach, Tim spent his time creating The Tim Tebow Foundation, envisioned by him while an undergraduate at The University of Florida (UF). His desire was to launch the Foundation even while a college student but NCAA regulations for athletes prohibited him from doing so…

      “The vision for the Tim Tebow Foundation will initially focus on serving Christ-centered orphanages around the world. They will establish partnerships with ministries serving in adult and youth correctional facilities. The Foundation leadership will use Tim’s platform to challenge people to public service and also continue to support First and 15 in Gainesville, FL where Tim sharpened his vision for serving friends in need.

      “In the future, the Foundation wants to consider supporting a network of Tebow Boys Homes, SUPPORT EFFORTS TO RESCUE CHILDREN FROM CHILD SLAVERY AND PROSTITUTION AROUND THE WORLD and continue to support global efforts in taking the Good News of Jesus Christ, in both word and deed, to children and families going through difficult times. To help support Tim’s Foundation and his upcoming events and appearances, visit http://www.TimTebowFoundation.org…”

      http://www.prweb.com/releases/2010/04/prweb3867444.htm

    • Brendt Wayne Waters

      A sad commentary on condescension cloaked as concerned Christianity when stuff gets labelled as “worldly” just because one does not agree with it. You forgot to pray, “I thank thee that I am not like other commenters”.

  56. [...] 6. The NFL season started last night with Tim Tebow without a team.  Jared Wilson reminds us how we should think about Tebow. [...]

  57. [...] Thinking Evangelically About Tim Tebow I like Tim Tebow a lot. As an athlete and a person. Two seasons ago his run with the Denver Broncos, though for the sober-minded somewhat ill-fated, was thrilling to watch. He’s fun to root for, on and off the field. Like many Christians and sports fans, I have enjoyed Tebowmania, don’t mind the constant ESPN stories, and really hope he lands a starting gig with an NFL team. [...]

  58. [...] #1. Thinking Evangelically about Tim Tebow by Jared Wilson [...]

  59. In the news today: Tebow refused to change position for another interested NFL team after the Pats released him ow.ly/oDk74

    • So what! I would not be surprised if Tebow declined an opportunity to play a different position but I really cannot understand why people are in a tizzy about that; it’s nobody business but his.

      But I did not see any team named, so how do we even know there was an offer or if there was an offer that it is a current event and not late reported old news?

      Do you honestly believe half of what the media reports? For sure, some in the media want Tebow out of the league. I once personally tracked down a Tebow related quote and found it was deliberately aborted to make it say the exact opposite of what the speaker actually said and all the media outlets reported it over and over and over and it was a lie.

  60. [...] “Thinking Evangelically About Tim Tebow” by Jared C. [...]

  61. Many great college quarterbacks have good throwing ability. The NFL becomes more difficult due to the speed of play. Due to the best of athletes being drafted, a quarterback is throwing to the fastest of receivers who are being covered by the fastest of backs, while being rushed by the fastest of linemen and linebackers. Quarterbacks whose brains are wired a certain way are able to rapidly decipher all of this stimuli that happening so quickly, make the right decision, and react in the blink of an eye. It doesn’t make someone unskilled or unintelligent if they aren’t wired in that way; and some who are maybe close to this naturally can learn new tricks. Whether Tebow will get another chance and what he will be able to do with it remains to be seen, but I expect that who he is and his desire to see Christ glorified will remain in whatever and wherever God’s will places him. Someone made a good point that at some point he will have to hang up his cleats and pads. He seems well prepared for that moment whether it comes soon or 15 years down the road.

  62. Just a gut feeling, but I feel pretty certain that God himself is far more forgiving, less judgmental, and not nearly as rigid in his thinking as some Christians are.

  63. I agree with a lot of what the article says but have a problem with the following excerpt.

    “Here’s my thing: The NFL is full of starting players who played one position in college that is not their position today. This includes college starting quarterbacks who find their place in the NFL as safeties, running backs, tight ends, etc. I just have to ask: At what point is Tebow’s inflexibility about his dream actually a manifestation of pride? At what point does he need to say, “Well, I can’t be a quarterback, but I will play fullback”? I can’t say. Maybe you can’t say. But surely we are close to that day?”

    I’m gonna be blunt because i know Jared won’t mind.

    This is something said by many people. Not specifically the part about pride but many people can be found whining “Why doesn’t he just change positions?” This is idiotic. He might be able to play TE or something but he also might not be able to. The idiotic thing is to suggest he’s doing something wrong by not pursuing it. The guy is 25 years old and has 20 million dollars. Why should he do something he doesn’t want to do. If he doesn’t want to be a TE how is it prideful to not do it? He has absolutely no reason to do it. It’s not like he’s trying to make a living and refusing to work a job he thinks is below him.

    I just think it is wrong to even suggest it might be a manifestation of pride that he doesn’t want to change positions. Can you expound on why you think he should even if he doesn’t want to be a TE?

    • Bill, if you’ll allow this idiot a reply… He *shouldn’t* play TE if he doesn’t want to. What I’m saying is that if he *does* want to play in the NFL, which he keeps saying he does, he *might* need to change positions b/c it doesn’t look like quarterback is panning out. We already hear now that another team offered him a chance at another position. If he doesn’t want to play in the NFL, fine. I’m assuming he does. Which is why it’s not idiotic to suggest he might have to be flexible. Or simply choose to hold on to his QB dream and never play. I really do hope that’s not what happens, but given the opportunities to stay in the NFL spotlight and play in the best football league in the world, it might actually be idiotic to stubbornly stick to a dream that every year gets older.

      • I’m sorry for using the word “idiotic.” I wasn’t saying you are an idiot though. :) I was just saying the argument was idiotic. I should have chosen my words more carefully though. Thanks for responding. That gives me a better understanding of what you meant.

        From everything Tebow has said publicly i don’t get the impression that he has any interest in playing another position. I think you are right that he will probably never be a starting QB in the NFL. I just didn’t like the suggestion that it might be coming from a place of pride on Tebow’s part. I agree with you that there is a chance it could be… but i don’t think there is any kind of evidence to suggest that. I certainly don’t think there is enough evidence to warrant suggesting it in this article.

        Go Pats! This game is too close for comfort.

      • “What I’m saying is that if he *does* want to play in the NFL, which he keeps saying he does, he *might* need to change positions b/c it doesn’t look like quarterback is panning out.”

        Tim’s “dream” is to be an NFL QB, not to play in the NFL.

        “If he doesn’t want to play in the NFL, fine. I’m assuming he does. Which is why it’s not idiotic to suggest he might have to be flexible.”

        Do you think it idiotic to assume you know something contrary to what Tim Tebow has clearly put in print in his book, “Through My Eyes,” and stated publicly many times? Do you also think it idiotic how many Christians think it is for them to give Tim advice on how to direct his life and think that “they know” the course he should take?

        Tim is presently at USC being coached by Tom House who Tom Brady reportedly credits with his accuracy. The Patriots release Tim on Saturday and he is at USC the next business day… Now if we want to “assume” something, maybe we should assume he went there at the recommendation of Belichick and/or Brady who evidently did not think Tim should change positions given that they are hurting a bit at “other positions.”

        http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82acaf67/article/pitching-guru-tom-house-also-tutors-top-nfl-quarterbacks

        Jon Rapoport ‏@JonRapoportBlog 4h (Sept. 12)
        Exclusive Photo & Videos Of Tim Tebow At USC http://ifollosports.com/celebritystory/exclusive-video-tim-tebow-working-out-usc … #Tim Tebow #Jets #Patriots @nflnetwork #Trojans pic.twitter.com/MpHgFYlfyj

        Jon Rapoport ‏@JonRapoportBlog 4h (Sept. 12)
        http://ifollosports.com/celebritystory/exclusive-video-tim-tebow-working-out-usc … -Exclusive Video Of Tim Tebow Working Out At USC #TimTebow #USC #Trojans #Gators #Patriots @TimTebow @TimTebowFanClub

        • Lynn, if you want to keep serving as Tebow’s publicist and defense attorney, that’s great, but please no more link dumps. The sheer number of them now is amounting to spam.

          I understand that his dream is to be an NFL QB. That he may have to hold on to that dream while never playing in the league is exactly my point. If he doesn’t want to switch positions, he probably won’t play in the NFL. If he’s fine with that, that’s great.

          • Jared: No more link dumps? Really?

            You should know that several of us have met on other sites, and we are war weary in the battle of defending Tim Tebow. Lynn in particular has won the respect of some of the most ardent Tebow haters in part because her posts are reasoned and always well sourced. Lynn in many ways has set the standard for Tebow supporters, hailing against those who cry religious persecution, teaching us to name the poster we are responding to with a quote to give context, discouraging personal attacks, and encouraging disagreement while being agreeable.

            We’ve all taken some hits, Lynn included, but I’d say it is pretty sad to see you insult her on this site and your disallowing her cites is just disingenuous.

          • Brian, frankly, I think it’s sad that you guys are “war weary” defending the man. I think that honestly reeks of idolatry. The man doesn’t need such defense. He’s a great guy, talented, solid, faithful. But the evangelicals who *need* him to be uncriticized, *need* him to succeed are treating him like a god.

            Yes, no more link dumps. I didn’t say anybody couldn’t comment. Just put into words. Dropping link after link in a comment thread is poor blog etiquette. I’ve been very lenient in allowing it this long. If you can’t comment without copious links, then don’t comment. You’ve each been given lots of room to state your case, over and over and over. If you don’t feel you’ve made it by now, I don’t know what else to tell you. You can keep commenting. I’m just saying no more link-dumps.

          • Brian: What are you defending Tebow from? Specifically is the war you are fighting a defense of his character or his football ability?

            I don’t feel like his character needs much defense. Pretty much the only people taking jabs at him here are trolls and people who are bitter towards Christianity. I don’t feel like it does any good to respond to them.

            Jared: Just curious. Did you anticipate this much backlash to this article?

          • Bill, sorta kinda.

  64. Bill & Jared…What is all this talk about Tim Tebow not being flexible to play another position??? Please name the teams…in fact, please just name ONE team that has asked Tim Tebow to switch positions? You can’t because it simply hasn’t happened. All this talk about Tim being inflexible is just silly. Tim has never played any position other than quarterback, nor does he want to. He has said MANY times that he will do whatever is asked of him to help the team. To the best of my knowledge, no coach has asked Tim to switch positions and play tight end, full back or anything else. Yes, Rex Ryan has some hair-brained ideas using Tim as punt protector, but Rex isn’t exactly competent as a coach.

    • Todd, I can’t name the team, but it was widely reported that he was asked. Here is just one link:
      http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2013/09/06/tim-tebow-refuses-to-change-positions-for-nfl-team-report-says/

      • Mr. Wilson: The point is that the team is not named and they are never named.

        • No, the point Todd was making is that it’s a lie. I never said the team was named. I’m just saying that I believe the reports. Lots of NFL teams and coaches like Tebow and want him to succeed. Lots think he’s a talented athlete and a great draw to their organizations. But they flat-out won’t sign him if they don’t think he will help them win games. I don’t believe the reports are fabricated. Todd does. That’s certainly his prerogative.

          • Jared: So you believe the report and Todd does not; I would say it is doubtful myself. The fact is that there are tons of false Tebow reports and always anonymous. It was at its worst when Tebow was a Jet, but some FL media this week reported the Jaguars signed Tim and then later retracted and said they were in negotiations, none of it is likely true.

            Interesting, that you want no more links from Lynn but yet your post your own.

          • Yes, I posted a link. *A* link. Not “many links in many comments.”

  65. You can’t name the team because the team was invisible…in other words, they didn’t exist. If they did, someone would have named them. This was nothing but some lame story made up by Peter King. Never named the team, didn’t even name the position. This is just another of many erroneous Tim Tebow stories that have not a grain of truth in them.

    • Sure, Todd, whatever you say.

      • Mr. Wilson: Do you believe everything the media reports? Really?

        I have twice personally tracked a Tebow story, proven it deliberately fraudulent, and once even garnered a small amount of media buzz on the find.

        I do not normally invest time tracking media stories, but I certainly take with a grain of salt most things the progressive secular media report. Benghazi anyone?

        • Lynn, your obsessive defense of Tebow is now bordering on the ridiculous. If you’re trying to distinguish yourself from Tebow’s “kooky fans,” as you claimed to want to do when you first started commenting, you are not succeeding.

    • No, there were multiple reports. Tebow wants to be a QB though. Having a report without naming teams isn’t uncommon. Teams like to keep a lot of that info under wraps if they can help it. Why does it even matter, Todd?

      • Because Tebow must not be criticized!! ;-)

        • Haha, i guess that’s the reason. I just don’t see how that is critical of Tebow to say he rejected an offer. If anything it says something positive about his talent. It’s saying teams think he is a good athlete. As a Tebow fan i was happy to see the report. :)

  66. Don’t blame me, Jared, blame Peter King. He was the one that pulled the story out of his tush with no facts…no names…no position offered…Just that Tebow turned it down. It’s bogus journalism at it’s worst.

    • I would not be at all surprised that Tim Tebow turned down an opportunity to change positions for a team that did not employ him — but he has always been willing to play any position to help his employing team win; including the N.E. Patriots, (who seemingly did not think that was the thing for Tim).

      But the fact remains that Yellow Journalism abounds in the “mainstream,” and that is nowhere more true than in reporting on Tim Tebow.

  67. Bill, there were “multiple reports” quoting Peter King’s erroneous report. I on’t care if there were 1000 reports. NONE…ZERO…NOT A SINGLE ONE named this alleged team, or the alleged position Tim Tebow allegedly “REFUSED TO PLAY”.

  68. Jared, no reason to attack Lynn. You’re ready to assume some bogus story you read that quotes not a single reliable source as the gospel. It was clearly nothing but yet another attempt by a sportswriter to use Tim Tebow’s name to create a story where there simply is not one.

    • This is not as important to me as it is to you folks. I’m happy to let you say what you’d like about the fellow. I like him a lot myself and want him to succeed. Part of wanting what’s best for him, in my estimation anyway, is to think soberly and honestly about his potential and giftedness. If you want to hold on to the Tebow As NFL Quarterback dream, that’s no skin off my back. I won’t say another word.

  69. Jared, Tim Tebow himself is holding on to this dream…why wouldn’t his fans do the same? Also, dreams are achieved by not giving up on them. Remember that other quarterback nobody wanted in the late 1990′s? If you haven’t watched “A Football Life: Kurt Warner” maybe you should. It is not too late for Tim Tebow. You do not have to believe in him…it’s okay.

    • The author saying he believes the Peter King report is accurate doesn’t mean he believes everything the media reports is accurate. Peter King is a reputable reporter and you shouldn’t be so quick to write off his information. He has lots of inside information.

      Why are you so defensive about this? Would it be bad if Tebow turned down an offer to play a non-QB position? It seems like you’re making a big deal out of something that doesn’t really matter.

  70. Bill, let’s call a spade a spade here. There is absolutely NOTHING “reputable” about Peter King’s “Tebow Refused To Play Another Position” full of B.S. story. A “reputable” reporter of such a story would name names — like a team, or the postion Tebow supposedly turned down. He provided nothing but hearsay and rumor. Sorry, but that is not reputable…it’s irresponsible “grasping at straws” for a story amateur stuff.

    • I didn’t say the story was “reputable.” I said Peter King is reputable. There have been many times he has talked about trade rumors with “unnamed teams” or said certain players were going to be drafted by “unnamed teams” and it came to pass. He has proven to be very reputable. It would be similar to trusting a friend of yours who has never lied to you before. This isn’t the case of a boy who’s always making up stories. I’m sorry but you don’t have any strong arguments.

      You said “I’m not even sure it would be necessarily a GOOD thing if he were even made an offer to play another position he’s never played. Precisely one of the reasons I don’t believe anything of the sort has happened.”

      So… you are admitting that one of the reasons you don’t believe it happened is you are not sure it would be a GOOD thing if he were made an offer? That’s a great reason for disbelieving it (Sarcasm. It’s not that great of a reason). At least you can admit it. You don’t believe it because you don’t want it to be true. You said it write there.

      BTW, I’m Russian and i don’t believe the US landed on the moon. Why don’t i believe it? I don’t think it would be a good thing. :)

      I know Tebow has played QB his whole life. I wouldn’t say he’s been enormously successful in the NFL though. He has only gotten the chance to start one season and has a decent record. I’m a big Tebow fan. I own a Broncos and Gators jersey. But enormously successful is pushing it. Mark Sanchez was more successful his first two seasons than Tebow and no one would call him an enormously successful NFL QB. I’m not saying he couldn’t be successful but this is one of the things Mr. Wilson is talking about in the article. Let’s be honest about the guy.

      • Bill: I don’t know why there are so many anonymous reports in the media in general or the sports media in particular. Clearly there are many, but it seems like a very bad practice to me, on both sides – the source and the reporter. If it’s confidential information keep it confidential and if it is not then attach your name when you speak. We’re not talking about Watergate, it’s sports, there should be no need for anonymous sources.

        That aside, there was a particular problem with a particular anonymous source with the Jets last season, who was fired, and whether he realizes it or not that may be part of Todd’s ire.

  71. Bill, you asked…”Would it be bad if Tebow turned down an offer to play a non-QB position?”

    No, it wouldn’t be bad at all. Tim Tebow has spent his entire football career playing QUARTERBACK. Not only that, he has been enormously successful at every level he has played that position from high school, to college, to the NFL. Why would it be bad if he turned down playing a position he has never played? I’m not even sure it would be necessarily a GOOD thing if he were even made an offer to play another position he’s never played. Precisely one of the reasons I don’t believe anything of the sort has happened.

  72. Reading through all of this, I would say it is you, Bill, who is over-reaching here. Peter King reporting a story with no sources that later proved to be true doesn’t necessarily make him reputable. Your whole “I’m a Russian and I don’t believe the U.S. landed on the moon” analogy doesn’t hold water either. The facts back the reality that the U.S. landed on the moon. The whole world watched. There are no facts that point to Peter King’s story having any basis of truth. It would be one thing if Mr. King wrote a story suggesting Tim Tebow play another position, and giving reasons to back this opinion. However, Mr. King not only stated as if it was fact that some team offered Tim to play at another position, he went a step further stating that “Tim Tebow Refused” such an offer. His “How Dare He Refuse” slant to his story only reveals one thing — his own bias against Tebow.

    Of course, the irony of all of this is that most of the people solidly in Tebow’s corner would be glad Tebow would refuse such an offer and hold on to his dream even if such an offer were real. There is, however, absolutely no indication that any offer was made for Tebow to refuse, other than Peter King’s unsubstantiated story offering nothing but rumor.

    • Jason, reporting that Tebow refused is not showing bias. It’s reporting. He (obviously) turned down the offer. It’s not evidence of bias to simply report something that happened.

  73. Jared, he was not necessarily reporting something that happened. Nothing “obvious” about it. The reporter made a very general statement backed up by verifiable names, no team name, not even the position he alleges that Tim Tebow was offered. This is likely just one of many bogus stories surrounding Tim Tebow made up to generate hits on the internet. You’re free to take this writer’s half-baked story backed by no verifiable facts as the gospel if you like. Not everyone is so gullible.

    • Todd, you’re being insulting. Peter King is not a half-rate, amateurish reporter. He’s a pro. Sports Illustrated, etc. The man is not known for making up stories. If you want to believe he’s lying, go ahead. But this story was not in the Enquirer. It’s not half-baked, as you’d like to imagine.

      Also, please stop saying I’m taking this as “the gospel.” I take the gospel as the gospel, and I take the gospel very seriously.

  74. Nothing “Pro” about a story on the internet that is substantiated by ZERO facts or verifiable sources. NOT A SINGLE ONE. Anyone can do that. Shame on Peter King for using Tim Tebow’s name to get himself a story. When he wants to name the team and the position Tim Tebow allegedly “Refused” to switch to, I’ll reconsider my assessment. Regardless, assuming the story is true — Thank GOD Tim Tebow stuck to his guns and stays focused on his dream.

    • Okay, Todd. You obviously don’t understand how reporting is done in the NFL. He’s one of the top 3 NFL insiders in the business. He would lose all his sources if he went around sharing details he was asked to keep silent. I guess we can agree to disagree. But just know that i’m right. ;)

      Just don’t go “shaming” someone you don’t know without all the information though. You are assuming his motives by saying he came out with the report just to get attention. That aint right dawg.

      I don’t normally do blog comments but it’s been fun. Have a good one people.

      • Bill: This is a rhetorical question – I don’t want to start another debate so I don’t want an answer. I just want to pose the question.

        Assuming you are correct that Peter King is one of the top 3 NFL insiders with all the sources — is that ethical? Doesn’t our acceptance of all these anonymous sources routinely used to report the news open the door to vast unchecked corruption in the media?

      • Bill: Another thought on the media – again, rhetorical questions: Do you believe there is a general liberal bias in much of the mainstream media and in turn a bias against anything or anyone “conservative”??? I would dare to guess that most participating in this discussion would say yes.

        Does it not follow then that the media would be biased against Tim Tebow? Some respond to that question with, “but they are not biased against other Christian athletes, even those who clearly have a testimony of being genuinely born again, so why would there be a difference?”

        Ray Lewis and others have been very outspoken about their faith, so Tebow is not set apart simply because he is outspoken about his faith. Why then?

        I would suggest to you that the difference is the power of influence that Tim Tebow has. Tim’s book was the number one bestselling Christian book and the number one bestselling sports book of 2011. “Through My Eyes,” sold over one million copies in hardback, and in March was released in paperback. Tim speaks each year to tens of thousands of people, many of whom pay hundreds of dollars for their tickets (all of which goes to charity/ministry), and usually to sold out venues. Time Magazine named Tim one of the 2012 100 most influential people in the world – most influential in the world, not just in the U.S. All the marketing people name him in the top three most recognized and/or most influential athletes in America (even after the Jets experience). Several presidential candidates asked for his endorsement last election cycle. Clearly, he energizes evangelicals and conservatives at-large and his voice empowers and encourages their voices.

        Now just putting two-and-two together, without examining any hard evidence, does it follow that many in the media would be biased against Tim? I would say yes, and I would also say the empirical evidence strongly supports the hypothesis. No, not all the media is biased against him, but a lot of it is. Some think Tim was blackballed by the NFL, and that too was a media hyped story, but I really believe the NFL for the most part only cares about how Tim plays the game, but many in the media want him out of the game – no matter what it takes.

        That is a prime reason some who follow Tim are hypersensitive to what the media reports about him –and- that is the source of much of the hype about Tim changing positions. Yes, some fans who want him to succeed and think he is presently failing make that suggestion (or demand). But many, many, many, who want him to fail cry loudly that he should change positions – because that would be the first step to proving even Tim believes he is a failure and at this late date it is highly unlikely he could make the transition. They want to discredit Tim and his life does not give them much to work with, so although there is fair debate about Tim’s game, they exaggerate it and publicize it to unreasonable proportions.

        Tim has been under contract to three NFL teams, one of which is known for creative use of players and moving them to other positions or using them in multiple positions. Tim promised each of the three teams he would play any position to help his team win – and none of those three teams made him a tight end, fullback, or any of the rest. That really should be the end of the discussion so why does the media keep bringing it up?

        • I actually can’t even believe that amount of ridiculous and football obsessed comments this article has gotten…. So very sad and disheartening! There is some serious, and quite obvious idolatry of Tim Tebow going on here….. Wow…….. Lord have mercy on our wandering hearts and worldly minds…..

        • First let me ask, is this the type of “Tebow wars” that you guys are fighting on the internet? I really don’t see the point.

          I agree that much of the media has a liberal bias and many people don’t like Tebow because of what he stands for. But you’re dead wrong if you think the sports media as a whole wants him out of the NFL. They make so much more money when Tebow is in the league. They get so many viewers they would never get before. You are a prime example.

          Before this next comment i want to make it clear that the only position i think Tebow could/should play in the NFL is QB. I think you are assuming too much when you say people who suggest he should change positions want him to fail. You probably don’t realize how many players in the NFL played QB their whole life and played WR in the NFL. I can think of 3 off the top of my head. The author of this article even suggested it might be a good idea and he clearly doesn’t want Tim to fail. You also admitted yourself in your testimony that you payed so little attention to sports before that you didn’t even know Tebow’s run had happened until he was already on the Jets. That would take some serious neglect of sports media. I’m not saying that’s a bad thing. Just saying it to point out you probably have little knowledge of the NFL. Are you aware that Tebow played WR for the Broncos in multiple games. He didn’t really do anything but you did say “none of those teams made him tight end, full back, or any of the rest.” I’m just saying it’s not all that crazy of a suggestion, though i don’t think it’s a good idea myself.

          The Vikings just this year switched Joe Webb, who had been our backup QB for 3 years, to WR. He’s a freakish athlete, a hard worker, and a good presence on the team. All traits Tebow shares.

          I apologize if this sounds argumentative.

          As far as Tebow wars go, don’t you think we can just sit back and wait to see if he makes it in the league. Us defending his abilities isn’t going to change anything.

  75. “He’s one of the top 3 NFL insiders in the business”

    Really? According to WHO? Please cite the source who officially rates “NFL Insiders”…inquiring minds want to know LOL

    And, by the way, the one doing the “shaming” is Peter King. He’s the one insisting that Tim Tebow flat out “Refused” to accept an offer to play some invisible position on some invisible team. NOT that it would be a bad thing that Tim would decline any alleged offer if it were made, but that isn’t the way Peter King made it sound.

    • No one has officially rated the NFL insiders. A quick google search will prove that it is the popular opinion. The fact that you think it’s such a funny comment proves how little you follow the sport. I’m guessing you’re a Tebow fan who only started watching football 2 years ago. Your knowledge of the NFL is only focused around Tebow trivia… which is why you guys aren’t really the ones to have defending him. I’m not saying you can’t defend him… you just make all of us Tebow fans look like we know nothing every time you put your football in your mouth. :)

  76. [...] Thinking Evangelically About Tim Tebow. “I fear that the Tebow-mania is just another manifestation of the way evangelicals think cultural cache and celebrity influence is vital to the cause of Christ. When I read the Bible, I see the opposite, actually, how God uses the low, the weak, the despised, the cultural cast-offs to further his kingdom. I am not against Christians in the entertainment or athletic spotlights, of course, but I am against the idolization of these people, which I think much of our fandom becomes. To be clear: The cause of Christ is not dependent on Tim Tebow’s success in the NFL. And, by the way, neither is his witness!” [...]

  77. Bill, your comment “I’m guessing you’re a Tebow fan who only started watching football 2 years ago. Your knowledge of the NFL is only focused around Tebow trivia…” is so typical. When all else fails, resort to baseless argument that being a Tebow fan must mean ones foot knowledge is limited to only Tebow. Seriously? Though, admittedly and proudly, I have been following Tim Tebow’s career since he was a senior in high school, I’ve been a football fan for 40+ years. Now go do a GOOGLE search or something because if it’s on the internet you know it’s true LOLOL

    • Todd, it wasn’t a baseless assumption. I’m a Tebow fan and know a lot about football. I was just assuming you didn’t because you acted like you didn’t know who Peter King was. I said a google search would prove that many people believe Peter King is at the top of his craft. I said “popular opinion.” I guess i could have assumed wrongly and maybe you know who Peter King is and you just don’t like him. Who do you think the top NFL reporters are? Or do you hate them all because they sometimes have to keep certain details silent? ;)

      If you have really followed Tim since HS. How many National Championships did he win in college? Quick, no google.

  78. Bill, you know what they say about “ASSume”.

    You stated…”Who do you think the top NFL reporters are?”. The question is absurd — mostly because it’s totally subjective depending on a variety of factors anyone doing the rating would deem important.

    That said, IF it were true that Tim Tebow “REFUSED” to accept an offer from another team to play another position…WHY is it such a big secret as to WHO the team is and WHAT the position was? Makes no sense. Peter King has no problem using Tim Tebow’s name in a headline that states he “REFUSED” something, but God forbid Peter King would step on anyone else’s toes. In my book, I call it a “Cheap Shot”, not to mention highly suspect. I’ll tell you what, let’s just agree to disagree. You go on thinking Peter King is among the top-tier of sports reporting, and I’ll consider him yet another in a long line of sports writers who all too conveniently use Tebow’s name to draw attention to themselves and/or create a story where there is none.

  79. ^^^^^ See, it’s easy to name names when doing a Tebow story. Psssssst, but it’s a secret if an NFL team makes an offer. They have to stay anonymous LOLOL ;-)

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