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		<title>By: mileskor</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2009/10/26/hcsb-study-bible/#comment-52972</link>
		<dc:creator>mileskor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Terry, and I&#039;ll go further to say that the HCSB is a superior translation to the ESV. The ESV is clunky, accurate, wooden, and disjointed. &quot;Flow&quot; is the price of an &quot;essentially literal&quot; approach, I suppose. Modern English speakers should take an honest look at the HCSB, and they&#039;ll see that it speaks the same language as they do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Terry, and I&#8217;ll go further to say that the HCSB is a superior translation to the ESV. The ESV is clunky, accurate, wooden, and disjointed. &#8220;Flow&#8221; is the price of an &#8220;essentially literal&#8221; approach, I suppose. Modern English speakers should take an honest look at the HCSB, and they&#8217;ll see that it speaks the same language as they do.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2009/10/26/hcsb-study-bible/#comment-52900</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 02:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely hilarious!

It is good to have a date for the HCSB Study Bible.  A great translation - my preference to replace the NIV and I realize this is not the safest forum to say it but to do the same for the ESV (because yes I think the ESV is very &quot;clunky&quot; in word choice and sentence structure - not natural).  But that is also is choice and preference (before you shoot me, note that I did not say the ESV was terrible or the HCSB was the greatest thing next to the original autographs).

In addition to the Study Bible coming in October 2010, there is also a Student version of the Apologetics Study Bible scheduled to arrive early in 2010.</description>
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<p>It is good to have a date for the HCSB Study Bible.  A great translation &#8211; my preference to replace the NIV and I realize this is not the safest forum to say it but to do the same for the ESV (because yes I think the ESV is very &#8220;clunky&#8221; in word choice and sentence structure &#8211; not natural).  But that is also is choice and preference (before you shoot me, note that I did not say the ESV was terrible or the HCSB was the greatest thing next to the original autographs).</p>
<p>In addition to the Study Bible coming in October 2010, there is also a Student version of the Apologetics Study Bible scheduled to arrive early in 2010.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2009/10/26/hcsb-study-bible/#comment-52896</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 01:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is the video on Youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSw1oskcrkM&amp;feature=player_embedded</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the video on Youtube</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSw1oskcrkM&amp;feature=player_embedded" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSw1oskcrkM&amp;feature=player_embedded</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2009/10/26/hcsb-study-bible/#comment-52810</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love love love my ESVSB (and the online component), but I also have an HCSB Apologetics Study Bible.   The translation is lacking some of the poetry I&#039;ve enjoyed in such translations as the ESV and the NKJV, but I have found many of the notes, which are geared specifically towards matters of apologetics, to be helpful in deciphering some of the more controversial passages.  On rare occasions, I find that the ESVSB notes don&#039;t satisfactorily address the questions presented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love love love my ESVSB (and the online component), but I also have an HCSB Apologetics Study Bible.   The translation is lacking some of the poetry I&#8217;ve enjoyed in such translations as the ESV and the NKJV, but I have found many of the notes, which are geared specifically towards matters of apologetics, to be helpful in deciphering some of the more controversial passages.  On rare occasions, I find that the ESVSB notes don&#8217;t satisfactorily address the questions presented.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2009/10/26/hcsb-study-bible/#comment-52780</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 02:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill, just for the record, the HCSB does not translate the term &quot;strong drink.&quot; That term is itself a translation. The HCSB translators used the original languages for their translation, not an English version. It&#039;s a translation, not a revision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill, just for the record, the HCSB does not translate the term &#8220;strong drink.&#8221; That term is itself a translation. The HCSB translators used the original languages for their translation, not an English version. It&#8217;s a translation, not a revision.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2009/10/26/hcsb-study-bible/#comment-52779</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 02:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, when you say you take issue with the language of the HCSB do you mean specific word choices or the way it sounds?

If you mean word choices, take heart--the Study Bible is being released in an updated edition that does away with some awkward words.

If you mean the way it sounds, then that of course, is your preference. It&#039;s funny that sometimes I find ESV fans praising that translation precisely because it has such a clunky sound to it (to use your word). They say it sounds more like the Bible. I just find the ESV to use such awkward, archaic syntax and words that it makes it difficult to read and understand.

I love the fact that the HCSB is a courageous, fresh translation that sounds like spoken English. I&#039;ve devoted quite a large portion of my blog to writing about it. I hope the HCSB and the ESV both overtake the NIV and KJV as the most-used Bibles among English readers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, when you say you take issue with the language of the HCSB do you mean specific word choices or the way it sounds?</p>
<p>If you mean word choices, take heart&#8211;the Study Bible is being released in an updated edition that does away with some awkward words.</p>
<p>If you mean the way it sounds, then that of course, is your preference. It&#8217;s funny that sometimes I find ESV fans praising that translation precisely because it has such a clunky sound to it (to use your word). They say it sounds more like the Bible. I just find the ESV to use such awkward, archaic syntax and words that it makes it difficult to read and understand.</p>
<p>I love the fact that the HCSB is a courageous, fresh translation that sounds like spoken English. I&#8217;ve devoted quite a large portion of my blog to writing about it. I hope the HCSB and the ESV both overtake the NIV and KJV as the most-used Bibles among English readers.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Cahalan</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2009/10/26/hcsb-study-bible/#comment-52745</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Cahalan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 06:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Video is still not working.</description>
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		<title>By: jon b</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2009/10/26/hcsb-study-bible/#comment-52743</link>
		<dc:creator>jon b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 04:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>video doesn&#039;t work</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>video doesn&#8217;t work</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Phillips</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2009/10/26/hcsb-study-bible/#comment-52739</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 02:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nah! It&#039;s just restin&#039;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah! It&#8217;s just restin&#8217;!</p>
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		<title>By: Logan Paschke</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2009/10/26/hcsb-study-bible/#comment-52738</link>
		<dc:creator>Logan Paschke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 02:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>video is dead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>video is dead.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Mackison</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2009/10/26/hcsb-study-bible/#comment-52730</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Mackison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto on the video not working.</description>
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		<title>By: Mark Smith</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2009/10/26/hcsb-study-bible/#comment-52727</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too could not get the video to play or find it elsewhere.  Does anyone have any suggestions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too could not get the video to play or find it elsewhere.  Does anyone have any suggestions?</p>
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		<title>By: HCSB Study Bible &#171; Biblical Paths</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2009/10/26/hcsb-study-bible/#comment-52725</link>
		<dc:creator>HCSB Study Bible &#171; Biblical Paths</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The video on the HCSB Study Bible is on his blog here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The video on the HCSB Study Bible is on his blog here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2009/10/26/hcsb-study-bible/#comment-52722</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love my ESVSB, and agree that the online resource is fantastic. Now I have some of the greatest theologians of the age right on my 4G htc Hero (better than the iPhone). But the issue with the HCSB is not its notes or lack thereof, it is with the language. There are scores of NT passages where I have looked at the Greek and then the HCSB and just said &quot;huh?&quot; That being said, I do have some issues with the ESVs translation of Psalms and some of the poetic portions of other books. They just sound really clunky, especially when read aloud. Someone more knowledgable in Hebrew, is my thought on this out of line? I really like the poetic sound of the KJV psalms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love my ESVSB, and agree that the online resource is fantastic. Now I have some of the greatest theologians of the age right on my 4G htc Hero (better than the iPhone). But the issue with the HCSB is not its notes or lack thereof, it is with the language. There are scores of NT passages where I have looked at the Greek and then the HCSB and just said &#8220;huh?&#8221; That being said, I do have some issues with the ESVs translation of Psalms and some of the poetic portions of other books. They just sound really clunky, especially when read aloud. Someone more knowledgable in Hebrew, is my thought on this out of line? I really like the poetic sound of the KJV psalms.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Worley</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2009/10/26/hcsb-study-bible/#comment-52719</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Worley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love the HCSB!  This is great news!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the HCSB!  This is great news!</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Phillips</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2009/10/26/hcsb-study-bible/#comment-52718</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t get the video to play, or find it at the Broadman/Holman site...any help, anyone?  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t get the video to play, or find it at the Broadman/Holman site&#8230;any help, anyone?  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2009/10/26/hcsb-study-bible/#comment-52716</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Milwaukee is the beer capital.</description>
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		<title>By: Scott Howard</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2009/10/26/hcsb-study-bible/#comment-52712</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto on the ESVSB web site. A great resource. I also like OliveTree&#039;s iPhone/Blackberry/Palm ESV Study Bible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto on the ESVSB web site. A great resource. I also like OliveTree&#8217;s iPhone/Blackberry/Palm ESV Study Bible.</p>
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		<title>By: HCSB Study Bible &#171; Εις Δοξαν</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2009/10/26/hcsb-study-bible/#comment-52707</link>
		<dc:creator>HCSB Study Bible &#171; Εις Δοξαν</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  Posted on October 27, 2009 by Jason   If you haven&#8217;t already seen it, check out the new ad for the HCSB Study Bible&#8211;it&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  Posted on October 27, 2009 by Jason   If you haven&#8217;t already seen it, check out the new ad for the HCSB Study Bible&#8211;it&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2009/10/26/hcsb-study-bible/#comment-52706</link>
		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find myself using ESV study bible site much more than I use my actual ESVSB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find myself using ESV study bible site much more than I use my actual ESVSB.</p>
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		<title>By: Loren Eaton</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2009/10/26/hcsb-study-bible/#comment-52703</link>
		<dc:creator>Loren Eaton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;She dropped a ginormous study Bible ... on her DOG!&lt;/i&gt;

Gold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>She dropped a ginormous study Bible &#8230; on her DOG!</i></p>
<p>Gold.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Henderson</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2009/10/26/hcsb-study-bible/#comment-52696</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Henderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yo, Bill. Writing to you from Munich, the beer capital of the world! Just wanted to point out a few items.

1. The translation of beer is legit, and expresses no SBC bias. The Hebrew word skr has cognates in Akkadian (sikaru) and clearly refers to beer. 

2. The NIV inconsistently translates it &quot;beer&quot; and &quot;fermented drink&quot; and that is likely due to their editorial committee structure: it&#039;s &quot;beer&quot; in Proverbs, the prophets and 1 Samuel, but &quot;fermented drink&quot; in the Pentateuch.

3. The NT in Luke 1:15 uses sikera in reference to John the Baptist. Can&#039;t drink it. NASB curiously translates &quot;liquor&quot; but...

4. Distillation of spirits, producing &quot;strong drink&quot; or &quot;liquor&quot; as we know it, was unknown in the ANE and in NT times. 

5. And just for fun, in France a few years back, I found a beer with the brand name &quot;Sikaru&quot; so I bought it (for research purposes).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yo, Bill. Writing to you from Munich, the beer capital of the world! Just wanted to point out a few items.</p>
<p>1. The translation of beer is legit, and expresses no SBC bias. The Hebrew word skr has cognates in Akkadian (sikaru) and clearly refers to beer. </p>
<p>2. The NIV inconsistently translates it &#8220;beer&#8221; and &#8220;fermented drink&#8221; and that is likely due to their editorial committee structure: it&#8217;s &#8220;beer&#8221; in Proverbs, the prophets and 1 Samuel, but &#8220;fermented drink&#8221; in the Pentateuch.</p>
<p>3. The NT in Luke 1:15 uses sikera in reference to John the Baptist. Can&#8217;t drink it. NASB curiously translates &#8220;liquor&#8221; but&#8230;</p>
<p>4. Distillation of spirits, producing &#8220;strong drink&#8221; or &#8220;liquor&#8221; as we know it, was unknown in the ANE and in NT times. </p>
<p>5. And just for fun, in France a few years back, I found a beer with the brand name &#8220;Sikaru&#8221; so I bought it (for research purposes).</p>
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		<title>By: matt morales</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2009/10/26/hcsb-study-bible/#comment-52693</link>
		<dc:creator>matt morales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 04:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HAHA...It is so true. While the ESV SB is excellent you don&#039;t want to lift it without using your legs :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HAHA&#8230;It is so true. While the ESV SB is excellent you don&#8217;t want to lift it without using your legs :)</p>
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		<title>By: Hardcore Southern Baptist</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2009/10/26/hcsb-study-bible/#comment-52690</link>
		<dc:creator>Hardcore Southern Baptist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 03:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This should be renamed the Hard Core Southern Baptist study BIble...</description>
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		<title>By: HCSB Study Bible &#124; Scripture Zealot</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2009/10/26/hcsb-study-bible/#comment-52688</link>
		<dc:creator>HCSB Study Bible &#124; Scripture Zealot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Broadman &amp; Holman has a nice video on the HCSB Study Bible you can see at Between Two Worlds. [...]</description>
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