Comments on: How Much Difference Would It Make? http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2010/01/19/how-much-difference-would-it-make/ Between Two Worlds Sun, 12 Feb 2012 00:45:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Linkie Goodness #4 « Should Know Better By Now http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2010/01/19/how-much-difference-would-it-make/#comment-57149 Linkie Goodness #4 « Should Know Better By Now Mon, 25 Jan 2010 09:57:18 +0000 http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/?p=7743#comment-57149 [...] Take God out of church and the associated events. Would we even notice? [...] [...] Take God out of church and the associated events. Would we even notice? [...]

]]> By: Saturday Links — DashHouse.com http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2010/01/19/how-much-difference-would-it-make/#comment-57104 Saturday Links — DashHouse.com Sat, 23 Jan 2010 09:02:36 +0000 http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/?p=7743#comment-57104 [...] How much difference would it make if churches knew nothing about prayer or the Spirit? [...] [...] How much difference would it make if churches knew nothing about prayer or the Spirit? [...]

]]> By: 9 Church Diseases « GRACE & PEACE http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2010/01/19/how-much-difference-would-it-make/#comment-57071 9 Church Diseases « GRACE & PEACE Fri, 22 Jan 2010 17:40:51 +0000 http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/?p=7743#comment-57071 [...] his wife what she thought would happen if the Holy Spirit departed from the local church.  Their joint conclusion was that in the vast majority of churches nothing would change, and few people would notice. [...] [...] his wife what she thought would happen if the Holy Spirit departed from the local church.  Their joint conclusion was that in the vast majority of churches nothing would change, and few people would notice. [...]

]]> By: Church Diseases « GRACE & PEACE http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2010/01/19/how-much-difference-would-it-make/#comment-57070 Church Diseases « GRACE & PEACE Fri, 22 Jan 2010 17:35:12 +0000 http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/?p=7743#comment-57070 [...] his wife what she thought would happen if the Holy Spirit departed from the local church.  Their joint conclusion was that in the vast majority of churches nothing would change, and few people would notice. [...] [...] his wife what she thought would happen if the Holy Spirit departed from the local church.  Their joint conclusion was that in the vast majority of churches nothing would change, and few people would notice. [...]

]]> By: 9 Church Diseases « GRACE & PEACE http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2010/01/19/how-much-difference-would-it-make/#comment-57068 9 Church Diseases « GRACE & PEACE Fri, 22 Jan 2010 17:13:23 +0000 http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/?p=7743#comment-57068 [...] his wife what she thought would happen if the Holy Spirit departed from the local church.  Their joint conclusion was that in the vast majority of churches nothing would change, and few people would notice. [...] [...] his wife what she thought would happen if the Holy Spirit departed from the local church.  Their joint conclusion was that in the vast majority of churches nothing would change, and few people would notice. [...]

]]> By: How Much Difference Would IT Make? « sea hope http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2010/01/19/how-much-difference-would-it-make/#comment-57015 How Much Difference Would IT Make? « sea hope Thu, 21 Jan 2010 15:11:39 +0000 http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/?p=7743#comment-57015 [...] via Between Two Worlds [...] [...] via Between Two Worlds [...]

]]> By: Bill Buckley http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2010/01/19/how-much-difference-would-it-make/#comment-57010 Bill Buckley Thu, 21 Jan 2010 13:34:34 +0000 http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/?p=7743#comment-57010 Not assumption nor accusation but clear observation. The power of God comes through prayer and the ministry of the Holy Spirit (Note the prayer life of Jesus; Acts 1:8) . Paul said, "The kingdom of God does not consist in words but in power." (I Corinthians 4:20). I love the American church but I do believe she is very anemic when it comes to moving in God's power and authority. Not assumption nor accusation but clear observation. The power of God comes through prayer and the ministry of the Holy Spirit (Note the prayer life of Jesus; Acts 1:8) . Paul said, “The kingdom of God does not consist in words but in power.” (I Corinthians 4:20). I love the American church but I do believe she is very anemic when it comes to moving in God’s power and authority.

]]> By: John Klein http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2010/01/19/how-much-difference-would-it-make/#comment-56986 John Klein Wed, 20 Jan 2010 18:41:31 +0000 http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/?p=7743#comment-56986 Thanks Brother David Sunday for sharing this! How we should desire all the more, to know God's pleasure through Holy Spirit wrought prayer. We in fact, miss much pleasure, when we neglect to spend time hearing God's pleasure in prayer. And it is the Father's pleasure, by the Holy Spirit, to show us the glory of christ. And does not the glory of Christ, cause us to live life as a prayer, for God's pleasure, for His glory, and for our joy? Thanks Brother David Sunday for sharing this! How we should desire all the more, to know God’s pleasure through Holy Spirit wrought prayer. We in fact, miss much pleasure, when we neglect to spend time hearing God’s pleasure in prayer. And it is the Father’s pleasure, by the Holy Spirit, to show us the glory of christ. And does not the glory of Christ, cause us to live life as a prayer, for God’s pleasure, for His glory, and for our joy?

]]> By: John http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2010/01/19/how-much-difference-would-it-make/#comment-56984 John Wed, 20 Jan 2010 17:38:33 +0000 http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/?p=7743#comment-56984 I would like to see an actualy graphic or statistical representation of what a Bible without prayer and the Spirit would look like... I would like to see an actualy graphic or statistical representation of what a Bible without prayer and the Spirit would look like…

]]> By: matt http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2010/01/19/how-much-difference-would-it-make/#comment-56978 matt Wed, 20 Jan 2010 15:25:54 +0000 http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/?p=7743#comment-56978 i think the "we" is just Francis and Edith, because this is Edith writing about a conversation they had. i think the “we” is just Francis and Edith, because this is Edith writing about a conversation they had.

]]> By: donsands http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2010/01/19/how-much-difference-would-it-make/#comment-56974 donsands Wed, 20 Jan 2010 13:35:32 +0000 http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/?p=7743#comment-56974 "If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!” Luke 11:13 Ask and you shall receive, knowck and it shall be opened, and seek and you shall find. The Lord is full of graciousness to bless us as we pray to Him. I have found that in my personal life, I do go through the motions at times, and yet the sovereign hand of God never forsakes me. It's a roller coaster ride, as they say for me. But it's the best I can do in this life. If the Lord is depending on us to pray and to seek His Holy Spirit, then we are in big trouble. The Lord works in us to will and to do. There are surely churches who are not regenerated churches, and are simply going through the motions, and the Holy Spirit is far from their lips of praise, and their hearts of pride and error. Such as a TD Jakes church, or even a Joel Osteen church. There may well be regenerated Christians within the congregation, but it is a dead church from the leaderships platform. “If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!” Luke 11:13

Ask and you shall receive, knowck and it shall be opened, and seek and you shall find.

The Lord is full of graciousness to bless us as we pray to Him.

I have found that in my personal life, I do go through the motions at times, and yet the sovereign hand of God never forsakes me.
It’s a roller coaster ride, as they say for me.

But it’s the best I can do in this life.

If the Lord is depending on us to pray and to seek His Holy Spirit, then we are in big trouble.

The Lord works in us to will and to do.

There are surely churches who are not regenerated churches, and are simply going through the motions, and the Holy Spirit is far from their lips of praise, and their hearts of pride and error. Such as a TD Jakes church, or even a Joel Osteen church.
There may well be regenerated Christians within the congregation, but it is a dead church from the leaderships platform.

]]> By: Eric T http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2010/01/19/how-much-difference-would-it-make/#comment-56972 Eric T Wed, 20 Jan 2010 13:05:32 +0000 http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/?p=7743#comment-56972 When he says "we", I think he is referring to himself and others involved with him in ministry. I think he's getting at the fact that in their own meetings/decisions/activities they neglected to pray as much as they should have. When he says “we”, I think he is referring to himself and others involved with him in ministry. I think he’s getting at the fact that in their own meetings/decisions/activities they neglected to pray as much as they should have.

]]> By: ED... (who blogs at Sincere Ignorance and Conscientious Stupidity) http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2010/01/19/how-much-difference-would-it-make/#comment-56969 ED... (who blogs at Sincere Ignorance and Conscientious Stupidity) Wed, 20 Jan 2010 11:35:28 +0000 http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/?p=7743#comment-56969 Churches aren't social clubs. An offering isn't a subscription fee. Preachers aren't performers. Sunday school isn't a babysitting service. Mission isn't optional. The Holy Spirit isn't an add-on, or a means to any other end: God's the worst accomplice a church can have. Churches aren’t social clubs. An offering isn’t a subscription fee. Preachers aren’t performers. Sunday school isn’t a babysitting service. Mission isn’t optional. The Holy Spirit isn’t an add-on, or a means to any other end: God’s the worst accomplice a church can have.

]]> By: Matt Hendley http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2010/01/19/how-much-difference-would-it-make/#comment-56962 Matt Hendley Wed, 20 Jan 2010 03:34:11 +0000 http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/?p=7743#comment-56962 I think it's all too true and a great exhortation. I think it’s all too true and a great exhortation.

]]> By: adam http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2010/01/19/how-much-difference-would-it-make/#comment-56961 adam Wed, 20 Jan 2010 03:22:11 +0000 http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/?p=7743#comment-56961 I agree with Frank. This isn't insight, it's just making assumptions (accusations?) about other people's prayer life. I agree with Frank. This isn’t insight, it’s just making assumptions (accusations?) about other people’s prayer life.

]]> By: Frank Martens http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2010/01/19/how-much-difference-would-it-make/#comment-56949 Frank Martens Tue, 19 Jan 2010 23:22:16 +0000 http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/?p=7743#comment-56949 <i>We concluded it would not make much difference in many board meetings, committee meetings, decisions and activities.</i> Really? How does he support that one? We concluded it would not make much difference in many board meetings, committee meetings, decisions and activities.

Really? How does he support that one?

]]> By: EricT http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2010/01/19/how-much-difference-would-it-make/#comment-56947 EricT Tue, 19 Jan 2010 22:36:03 +0000 http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/?p=7743#comment-56947 Fascinating. Fascinating.

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