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		<title>By: Why We Gossip &#38; How to Kill It &#124; Northbrook Baptist Church</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why We Gossip &#38; How to Kill It &#124; Northbrook Baptist Church</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2013 14:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Around the Blog in 80 Seconds &#8211; Pure Church by Thabiti Anyabwile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Around the Blog in 80 Seconds &#8211; Pure Church by Thabiti Anyabwile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2013 07:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] How to Stop Church-Killing Gossip. Raise your hand if you think Justin Taylor is perhaps the most useful blogger alive. Here&#8217;s another very helpful abstract of thoughts from Kent Hughes, Dan Phillips, and Ray Ortlund. Good stuff to save friendships, heartache, churches, and reputations. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ray &#8220;Ducky&#8221; Ortlund: Church Conflict Can Lead to Death &#124; The Wartburg Watch 2013</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray &#8220;Ducky&#8221; Ortlund: Church Conflict Can Lead to Death &#124; The Wartburg Watch 2013</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 22:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#160;That is saying a lot since Dee hates conspiracy theories. On the same day, Justin Taylor here&#160;and Frank Turk here&#160;(quite interesting bedfellows) republished the exact same article by [...]</description>
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		<title>By: How to Stop Gossip &#124; Zion Evangelical &#38; Reformed Church</title>
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		<dc:creator>How to Stop Gossip &#124; Zion Evangelical &#38; Reformed Church</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 18:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Justin Taylor points out some fantastic resources for dealing with gossip that infects our relationships, churches, and ministries. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Weekly Links (2/15/2013) &#124; The Beacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weekly Links (2/15/2013) &#124; The Beacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 16:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of a few quotes and arti­cles on how to stop gos­sip in the church. You can find them here. I par­tic­u­larly thought Dan’s arti­cle on the Pyromaniacs blog would be quite [...]</description>
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		<title>By: 6-String Salvo February 15, 2013 &#171; Mike Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>6-String Salvo February 15, 2013 &#171; Mike Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 10:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Justin Taylor had two great blogs this week: 1) How to stop church-killing gossip; 2) How could God command genocide in the Old [...]</description>
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		<title>By: How To Stop Church Killing Gossip (via Justin Taylor) &#171; mgpcpastor&#039;s blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>How To Stop Church Killing Gossip (via Justin Taylor) &#171; mgpcpastor&#039;s blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 22:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Justin Taylor put together a few recent posts by others about the danger of gossip and how to respon...: Kent Hughes: Gossip involves saying behind a person’s back what you would never say to his or her face. Flattery means saying to a person’s face what you would never say behind his or her back. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: How to Stop Church-Killing Gossip &#171; smallGroups</title>
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		<dc:creator>How to Stop Church-Killing Gossip &#171; smallGroups</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Two must read blogs &#171; The Saint&#039;s Armor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Two must read blogs &#171; The Saint&#039;s Armor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 22:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ray Ortlund</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray Ortlund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 16:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Patti.  I will not enter into an extended discussion in a comment thread.  I will just say this.

Some years ago a friend came under intense accusation.  The accusations were untrue.  But he lost his ministry position.

Later in the very day when he left that ministry, my friend&#039;s mom found his dad on the floor of the hallway in their home.  He had collapsed.  He was moaning, &quot;My son, my son.&quot;  Five months later, the man was dead.

I wonder if my friend&#039;s accusers thought through in advance what the full human impact of their pursuit would be.  

Well, that made me determine that, for the rest of my life, I will try to be cautious when I don&#039;t know all the facts.  People can be badly hurt by false accusations.  They can also be hurt by injustices that are never confronted.  Both are harmful.  And isn&#039;t that what we all want -- to protect all innocent people from harm?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Patti.  I will not enter into an extended discussion in a comment thread.  I will just say this.</p>
<p>Some years ago a friend came under intense accusation.  The accusations were untrue.  But he lost his ministry position.</p>
<p>Later in the very day when he left that ministry, my friend&#8217;s mom found his dad on the floor of the hallway in their home.  He had collapsed.  He was moaning, &#8220;My son, my son.&#8221;  Five months later, the man was dead.</p>
<p>I wonder if my friend&#8217;s accusers thought through in advance what the full human impact of their pursuit would be.  </p>
<p>Well, that made me determine that, for the rest of my life, I will try to be cautious when I don&#8217;t know all the facts.  People can be badly hurt by false accusations.  They can also be hurt by injustices that are never confronted.  Both are harmful.  And isn&#8217;t that what we all want &#8212; to protect all innocent people from harm?</p>
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		<title>By: Patti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 16:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ray Ortland,
Is that why you leaders are so silent? You are worried about &#039;releasing your own injustices?&#039; 
Maybe I am misunderstanding what you mean, I promise not to gossip about my assumptions of what I think you mean in case I am really jumping to conclusions before I understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray Ortland,<br />
Is that why you leaders are so silent? You are worried about &#8216;releasing your own injustices?&#8217;<br />
Maybe I am misunderstanding what you mean, I promise not to gossip about my assumptions of what I think you mean in case I am really jumping to conclusions before I understand.</p>
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		<title>By: Patti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 16:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Depending on the circumstances, sometimes &#039;leaping to a conclusion&#039; is the correct response. When someone hears about child sexual abuse coverup  in a church, that is a subject as important as if someone heard about a real ticking time bomb in a sanctuary. Oh, don&#039;t gossip to anyone about it, no one will worship in there anymore. Hopefully the bomb is a dud. We need to find out that fact first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Depending on the circumstances, sometimes &#8216;leaping to a conclusion&#8217; is the correct response. When someone hears about child sexual abuse coverup  in a church, that is a subject as important as if someone heard about a real ticking time bomb in a sanctuary. Oh, don&#8217;t gossip to anyone about it, no one will worship in there anymore. Hopefully the bomb is a dud. We need to find out that fact first.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Ortlund</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray Ortlund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 15:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are many wrongs in many churches.  They should not be swept under the rug.

But leaping to conclusions doesn&#039;t help.  Foundational to justice is the difference between an accusation and a fact.  The moment we overlook that distinction, we risk unleashing our own injustices, no matter how wrong anyone else might later prove to be.

May God be honored and his people holy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are many wrongs in many churches.  They should not be swept under the rug.</p>
<p>But leaping to conclusions doesn&#8217;t help.  Foundational to justice is the difference between an accusation and a fact.  The moment we overlook that distinction, we risk unleashing our own injustices, no matter how wrong anyone else might later prove to be.</p>
<p>May God be honored and his people holy.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Guillot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Guillot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 14:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for those very edifying insights! I talked (gossip, maybe) against gossiping (in French though:) right here... http://benguillot.wordpress.com/2012/11/26/le-commerage-est-contraire-a-la-grace-de-dieu/
In Christ&#039;s love!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for those very edifying insights! I talked (gossip, maybe) against gossiping (in French though:) right here&#8230; <a href="http://benguillot.wordpress.com/2012/11/26/le-commerage-est-contraire-a-la-grace-de-dieu/" rel="nofollow">http://benguillot.wordpress.com/2012/11/26/le-commerage-est-contraire-a-la-grace-de-dieu/</a><br />
In Christ&#8217;s love!</p>
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		<title>By: News of Note &#124; Santa Monica Church Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>News of Note &#124; Santa Monica Church Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 13:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;How to Stop Church-Killing Gossip&#8221; &#8211; Justin Taylor quotes Ray Ortlund, Dan Phillips, and R. Kent Hughes on how to stop [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Quote: Kent Hughes on Gossip and Flattery &#124; Current Events in Light of the Kingdom of God</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quote: Kent Hughes on Gossip and Flattery &#124; Current Events in Light of the Kingdom of God</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 09:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Laura Blalock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Blalock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 01:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jewfaq.org/speech.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt; is a very thoughtfully explained Jewish perspective.

I&#039;ve read that before you engage in something that might be gossip, you should ask yourself three questions:  Is it true?  Is it kind?  Is it necessary?  I think this would rule in talking about, for instance, child abuse, and rule out hypothesizing that somebody is cheating on their spouse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.jewfaq.org/speech.htm" rel="nofollow">Here</a> is a very thoughtfully explained Jewish perspective.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read that before you engage in something that might be gossip, you should ask yourself three questions:  Is it true?  Is it kind?  Is it necessary?  I think this would rule in talking about, for instance, child abuse, and rule out hypothesizing that somebody is cheating on their spouse.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly, I&#039;ve seen the word &quot;gossip&quot; misused by pastors in an effort to control the talk of their congregations.  The term &quot;gossip&quot; can be mis-defined by high-control pastors to silence those who want to challenge the abusive system they see.  This creates a no-talk environment where members are afraid to question a pastor because that would be considered questioning authority.   And who has the right to question authority God has placed put in place?   

Another example of mis-defined gossip example can occur when sexual abuse is exposed to church leaders.  Sometimes those church leaders go in defense mode trying to squelch all conversation related to the incident.  Talking about this sex abuse situation is considered &quot;gossip&quot;.  The reality is that if there is a case of sex abuse, it needs to be discussed.  People must be notified to discover the extent of the abuse, safeguards must be put in place, the environment must be an open one in which all feel free to discuss what happened and what can church/families do to protect children.  

Additionally, victim&#039;s family sometimes are abandoned by their friends because people are afraid to provide support lest the support be labeled as &quot;gossip.&quot;  I know of such a case in which an entire family was essentially shunned because of the &quot;no-talk, gossip&quot; rule.  They were abandoned by church leaders and the church body eventually moving out of the area to escape this treatment.  They are now afraid to try church again because of this horrific experience.  

And finally, I believe many high level and popular church leaders are redefining the word &quot;gossip&quot; in their mind to justify inaction on their part by calling out abuse that they know has been going on among their peers/colleagues.  Shame on them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, I&#8217;ve seen the word &#8220;gossip&#8221; misused by pastors in an effort to control the talk of their congregations.  The term &#8220;gossip&#8221; can be mis-defined by high-control pastors to silence those who want to challenge the abusive system they see.  This creates a no-talk environment where members are afraid to question a pastor because that would be considered questioning authority.   And who has the right to question authority God has placed put in place?   </p>
<p>Another example of mis-defined gossip example can occur when sexual abuse is exposed to church leaders.  Sometimes those church leaders go in defense mode trying to squelch all conversation related to the incident.  Talking about this sex abuse situation is considered &#8220;gossip&#8221;.  The reality is that if there is a case of sex abuse, it needs to be discussed.  People must be notified to discover the extent of the abuse, safeguards must be put in place, the environment must be an open one in which all feel free to discuss what happened and what can church/families do to protect children.  </p>
<p>Additionally, victim&#8217;s family sometimes are abandoned by their friends because people are afraid to provide support lest the support be labeled as &#8220;gossip.&#8221;  I know of such a case in which an entire family was essentially shunned because of the &#8220;no-talk, gossip&#8221; rule.  They were abandoned by church leaders and the church body eventually moving out of the area to escape this treatment.  They are now afraid to try church again because of this horrific experience.  </p>
<p>And finally, I believe many high level and popular church leaders are redefining the word &#8220;gossip&#8221; in their mind to justify inaction on their part by calling out abuse that they know has been going on among their peers/colleagues.  Shame on them.</p>
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		<title>By: Nell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 20:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does one define gossip? The charge of gossip can be, and has been, used to cover up systemic sin and also abuse of children and women.</description>
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		<title>By: Gill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 20:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin, good post and helfpul things to ponder.

I think it would be good to further define what gossip is, and what it is not, from a biblical perspective.  Something like that should precede a post like this one, so what you are saying is understood in proper context. 

A commentor on Ray Ortlund&#039;s 2009 post you reference had some good insite along these lines: 

Ray Ortlund:
&quot;Thanks, Curious.

A great place to begin on the tongue, both its duties and its sins, is the Westminster Larger Catechism on the ninth commandment. You’ll find it in questions 143-145. Its teaching is profound, detailed, brief.&quot;

Curious:
&quot;Thanks for the guidance to Q. 145. The hard part is to know when to apply this portion: “The sins forbidden in the ninth commandment are, …concealing the truth, undue silence in a just cause, and holding our peace when iniquity calleth for reproof from ourselves, or complaint to others…”

Since motivation is important, yet sometime difficult to discern in others, it would seem easier to label certain statements gossip than it is to show why, unless of course it easy to show it is false or has no redeeming purpose. I’ve seen a church split where leaders called it gossip and the thoughtful ‘discontents’ (including ordained leaders) called it a just cause. The truth was not in question, but the seriousness of the problems was.

Baxter and others probably have some guidance that I’ve not been able to assess yet. Let me know if you have other thoughts on understanding this dilemma.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin, good post and helfpul things to ponder.</p>
<p>I think it would be good to further define what gossip is, and what it is not, from a biblical perspective.  Something like that should precede a post like this one, so what you are saying is understood in proper context. </p>
<p>A commentor on Ray Ortlund&#8217;s 2009 post you reference had some good insite along these lines: </p>
<p>Ray Ortlund:<br />
&#8220;Thanks, Curious.</p>
<p>A great place to begin on the tongue, both its duties and its sins, is the Westminster Larger Catechism on the ninth commandment. You’ll find it in questions 143-145. Its teaching is profound, detailed, brief.&#8221;</p>
<p>Curious:<br />
&#8220;Thanks for the guidance to Q. 145. The hard part is to know when to apply this portion: “The sins forbidden in the ninth commandment are, …concealing the truth, undue silence in a just cause, and holding our peace when iniquity calleth for reproof from ourselves, or complaint to others…”</p>
<p>Since motivation is important, yet sometime difficult to discern in others, it would seem easier to label certain statements gossip than it is to show why, unless of course it easy to show it is false or has no redeeming purpose. I’ve seen a church split where leaders called it gossip and the thoughtful ‘discontents’ (including ordained leaders) called it a just cause. The truth was not in question, but the seriousness of the problems was.</p>
<p>Baxter and others probably have some guidance that I’ve not been able to assess yet. Let me know if you have other thoughts on understanding this dilemma.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 20:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Leila. This needs to be said continually until TGC speaks up. Their silence is their own condemnation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Leila. This needs to be said continually until TGC speaks up. Their silence is their own condemnation.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Blalock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Blalock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 20:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are great questions.

They are a little bit in your face, but then gossip is a very damaging thing to engage in.  And people really know better when they do it.

Maybe if you want to be a little bit gentler you could say, &quot;Let me stop you - I don&#039;t think this is any of my business.&quot;  But it&#039;s hard not to be harsh when you&#039;re calling somebody out for this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are great questions.</p>
<p>They are a little bit in your face, but then gossip is a very damaging thing to engage in.  And people really know better when they do it.</p>
<p>Maybe if you want to be a little bit gentler you could say, &#8220;Let me stop you &#8211; I don&#8217;t think this is any of my business.&#8221;  But it&#8217;s hard not to be harsh when you&#8217;re calling somebody out for this.</p>
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		<title>By: Leila</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 20:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Gossip is a sin rarely disciplined but often more socially destructive than the sensational sins.&quot;

Really? More destructive than the sexual abuse of children and the subsequent cover up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Gossip is a sin rarely disciplined but often more socially destructive than the sensational sins.&#8221;</p>
<p>Really? More destructive than the sexual abuse of children and the subsequent cover up?</p>
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		<title>By: Clarice</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 18:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the need for tact. Phew, these questions come off really self righteous to me.  I am totally on board with the intent, but they would do some damage between women, that&#039;s for sure. There&#039;s a way to address gossip without getting in someone&#039;s face. And even in a sweet tone these are rather jarring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the need for tact. Phew, these questions come off really self righteous to me.  I am totally on board with the intent, but they would do some damage between women, that&#8217;s for sure. There&#8217;s a way to address gossip without getting in someone&#8217;s face. And even in a sweet tone these are rather jarring.</p>
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		<title>By: SG</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 17:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan&#039;s advice could work in a trusting relationship when one can be direct but probably wouldn&#039;t work with an acquaintance, a sensitive friend or your mother-in-law.  Most of the gossip laden situations I find myself in are the latter (though not necessarily with the mother-in-law, that was just an example :).  I&#039;d love some advice on how to handle gossip in a tactful, godly way for these situations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan&#8217;s advice could work in a trusting relationship when one can be direct but probably wouldn&#8217;t work with an acquaintance, a sensitive friend or your mother-in-law.  Most of the gossip laden situations I find myself in are the latter (though not necessarily with the mother-in-law, that was just an example :).  I&#8217;d love some advice on how to handle gossip in a tactful, godly way for these situations.</p>
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