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	<title>Comments on: Deep Church: A Third Way?</title>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/kevindeyoung/2009/10/01/deep-church-third-way/comment-page-1/#comment-27237</link>
		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found the review very interesting.  Having not read the book, I base my premises solely on the review. As I read the review,I felt that Pastor Belcher was using Hegelian logic to reconcile opposing theologies in order to arrive to his conclusion.  Is it bad to use this method of reasoning? Well...my foremost concern is that in doing so compromise is employed. It reminds me of what Deitrich Bonhoeffer once said in a short aphorism depicting two polemics such as radical change and compromise.  He writes,&quot; Radicalism hates time, and compromise hates eternity. Radicalism hates patience, and compromise hates decision.  Radicalism hates wisdom, and compromise hates simplicity.  Radicalism hates moderation and measure, and compromise hates the immeasurable.  Radicalism hates the real, and compromise hates the Word.&quot; He would know what compromise is all about, he lived in it.

I agree with your statement, &quot;We need a revitalized, reformed evangelical church.&quot;  But we must stick to Scripture as the inerrant Word of God, transcending history of mankind as timeless Truths.  

Thank you Pastor Kevin for your insight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found the review very interesting.  Having not read the book, I base my premises solely on the review. As I read the review,I felt that Pastor Belcher was using Hegelian logic to reconcile opposing theologies in order to arrive to his conclusion.  Is it bad to use this method of reasoning? Well&#8230;my foremost concern is that in doing so compromise is employed. It reminds me of what Deitrich Bonhoeffer once said in a short aphorism depicting two polemics such as radical change and compromise.  He writes,&#8221; Radicalism hates time, and compromise hates eternity. Radicalism hates patience, and compromise hates decision.  Radicalism hates wisdom, and compromise hates simplicity.  Radicalism hates moderation and measure, and compromise hates the immeasurable.  Radicalism hates the real, and compromise hates the Word.&#8221; He would know what compromise is all about, he lived in it.</p>
<p>I agree with your statement, &#8220;We need a revitalized, reformed evangelical church.&#8221;  But we must stick to Scripture as the inerrant Word of God, transcending history of mankind as timeless Truths.  </p>
<p>Thank you Pastor Kevin for your insight.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/kevindeyoung/2009/10/01/deep-church-third-way/comment-page-1/#comment-23387</link>
		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2011 10:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin please let me know where I can read more of what this &quot;revitalized&quot; church looks like.
Thank you.
Stan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin please let me know where I can read more of what this &#8220;revitalized&#8221; church looks like.<br />
Thank you.<br />
Stan.</p>
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		<title>By: Deep Church &#124; Notes &#38; Review &#171; VIA</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/kevindeyoung/2009/10/01/deep-church-third-way/comment-page-1/#comment-22050</link>
		<dc:creator>Deep Church &#124; Notes &#38; Review &#171; VIA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2011 06:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] http://viaemmaus.wordpress.com/2010/03/05/book-review-deep-church-by-jim-belcher/ http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/kevindeyoung/2009/10/01/deep-church-third-way/ Share this:FacebookTwitterPrintEmailLike this:LikeBe the first to like this post. Posted in: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] <a href="http://viaemmaus.wordpress.com/2010/03/05/book-review-deep-church-by-jim-belcher/" rel="nofollow">http://viaemmaus.wordpress.com/2010/03/05/book-review-deep-church-by-jim-belcher/</a> <a href="http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/kevindeyoung/2009/10/01/deep-church-third-way/" rel="nofollow">http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/kevindeyoung/2009/10/01/deep-church-third-way/</a> Share this:FacebookTwitterPrintEmailLike this:LikeBe the first to like this post. Posted in: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: biggzipp.com &#187; Deep Church by Jim Belcher &#8211; Quick Thoughts</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/kevindeyoung/2009/10/01/deep-church-third-way/comment-page-1/#comment-7213</link>
		<dc:creator>biggzipp.com &#187; Deep Church by Jim Belcher &#8211; Quick Thoughts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2010 06:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For a more in depth review, check out DeYoung [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] For a more in depth review, check out DeYoung [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Deep Church &#171; Alétheia</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/kevindeyoung/2009/10/01/deep-church-third-way/comment-page-1/#comment-5185</link>
		<dc:creator>Deep Church &#171; Alétheia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 21:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] provides his own review. In it, he summarizes each chapter in Deep Church:  1. Deep Truth – Emergents reject classic [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] provides his own review. In it, he summarizes each chapter in Deep Church:  1. Deep Truth – Emergents reject classic [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SERMONJAM</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/kevindeyoung/2009/10/01/deep-church-third-way/comment-page-1/#comment-4416</link>
		<dc:creator>SERMONJAM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 05:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JOHN PIPER ON MARK DRISCOLL SERMON JAM 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWVhn9HaRNg</description>
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		<title>By: Book Review: Deep Church by Jim Belcher &#171; Via Emmaus</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/kevindeyoung/2009/10/01/deep-church-third-way/comment-page-1/#comment-4160</link>
		<dc:creator>Book Review: Deep Church by Jim Belcher &#171; Via Emmaus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] gotten a lot of attention in book reviews.  If Belcher&#8217;s book interests you, check out the balanced review by Kevin DeYoung  and an excoriating one by Greg Gilbert.  I appreciate Greg&#8217;s concern for Belcher&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] gotten a lot of attention in book reviews.  If Belcher&#8217;s book interests you, check out the balanced review by Kevin DeYoung  and an excoriating one by Greg Gilbert.  I appreciate Greg&#8217;s concern for Belcher&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Study guide &#8212; Deep Church, Deep Truth &#124; Through A Glass, Dimly</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/kevindeyoung/2009/10/01/deep-church-third-way/comment-page-1/#comment-4092</link>
		<dc:creator>Study guide &#8212; Deep Church, Deep Truth &#124; Through A Glass, Dimly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 01:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you&#8217;re interested in some reviews, check out: (1) A thorough summary &amp; review by Kevin DeYoung (notice the comments left by Jim Belcher).  (2) A review from a hard-nosed conservative, Frank [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] you&#8217;re interested in some reviews, check out: (1) A thorough summary &amp; review by Kevin DeYoung (notice the comments left by Jim Belcher).  (2) A review from a hard-nosed conservative, Frank [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Review of Jim Belcher’s ‘Deep Church’ – Part 3 &#171; Matt Capps Blog</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/kevindeyoung/2009/10/01/deep-church-third-way/comment-page-1/#comment-2963</link>
		<dc:creator>Review of Jim Belcher’s ‘Deep Church’ – Part 3 &#171; Matt Capps Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] reading others thoughts. In preparation for presenting my thoughts on Deep Church I read reviews by Kevin DeYoung, Greg Gilbert, Steve McCoy, Scott Armstrong. I have posted some of their comments in the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] reading others thoughts. In preparation for presenting my thoughts on Deep Church I read reviews by Kevin DeYoung, Greg Gilbert, Steve McCoy, Scott Armstrong. I have posted some of their comments in the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Neal Edward Wagner</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/kevindeyoung/2009/10/01/deep-church-third-way/comment-page-1/#comment-2847</link>
		<dc:creator>Neal Edward Wagner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am in about the middle of reading Deep Church, and just finished reading Ray Anderson&#039;s An Emergent Theology for the Emerging Church. I am just a regular Joe Christian with a bad habit of reading theological-type books and probably don&#039;t belong in this discussion. But, here goes... 

As a non-Calvinist inspired by more Wesley and Anabaptist-type theology and practice, I have a few general comments about this whole thing. One, there was a church before the Reformation (and before any other movement) so I don&#039;t hang my faith on that. Two, whenever there is a growing concern about the condition of the church, there are various, competing, and even off-base views as several who sense there is something wrong with the status quo are trying to find a better way. Some preach because of ego, some out of sincerity. From pre-Reformation (Zwingli, Hus, etc.) through the actual Reformation (Luther, Calvin, etc.) there was arguing, dissenting, bashing, and even some killing of those with different ideas - and they were supposed to be on the same side against Roman Catholics! I hope that there are Christians all along the spectrum who are willing to not demonize others and can covenant together in prayer and discussion of these matters. It is called humility. Aren&#039;t we all just trying to figure out the best way to be the church and still be true to God’s revelation and Spirit? Is it possible that the problem of the church is the lack of the unity? I don&#039;t hear any talking of throwing out the Gospel in favor of a big group hug. It is possible to have good theology and good praxis. Most churches and Christians seem to be able to do only one or the other. The real Gospel is both. I know that Brian McLaren has become a favorite whipping boy. I have a few of his articles but I am not ready to burn him at the stake. He may have said some really out there things, but I have yet to encounter them. The radicals among us may have value in shaking things up now and again. God can handle it. I think that Jim Belcher was way to kind to the Traditionalists in his book (so far). You may now proceed to dissect and destroy me (Not really). Just my 2 cents worth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am in about the middle of reading Deep Church, and just finished reading Ray Anderson&#8217;s An Emergent Theology for the Emerging Church. I am just a regular Joe Christian with a bad habit of reading theological-type books and probably don&#8217;t belong in this discussion. But, here goes&#8230; </p>
<p>As a non-Calvinist inspired by more Wesley and Anabaptist-type theology and practice, I have a few general comments about this whole thing. One, there was a church before the Reformation (and before any other movement) so I don&#8217;t hang my faith on that. Two, whenever there is a growing concern about the condition of the church, there are various, competing, and even off-base views as several who sense there is something wrong with the status quo are trying to find a better way. Some preach because of ego, some out of sincerity. From pre-Reformation (Zwingli, Hus, etc.) through the actual Reformation (Luther, Calvin, etc.) there was arguing, dissenting, bashing, and even some killing of those with different ideas &#8211; and they were supposed to be on the same side against Roman Catholics! I hope that there are Christians all along the spectrum who are willing to not demonize others and can covenant together in prayer and discussion of these matters. It is called humility. Aren&#8217;t we all just trying to figure out the best way to be the church and still be true to God’s revelation and Spirit? Is it possible that the problem of the church is the lack of the unity? I don&#8217;t hear any talking of throwing out the Gospel in favor of a big group hug. It is possible to have good theology and good praxis. Most churches and Christians seem to be able to do only one or the other. The real Gospel is both. I know that Brian McLaren has become a favorite whipping boy. I have a few of his articles but I am not ready to burn him at the stake. He may have said some really out there things, but I have yet to encounter them. The radicals among us may have value in shaking things up now and again. God can handle it. I think that Jim Belcher was way to kind to the Traditionalists in his book (so far). You may now proceed to dissect and destroy me (Not really). Just my 2 cents worth.</p>
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