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G HUBBARD — Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:27:50 +0000

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By: Shannon

Shannon — Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:19:17 +0000

This was so very helpful! Maybe whichever part you usually ‘sing’ also influences you. I’m not a pastor, but I can imagine that whatever resonates with me is what I’d most like to preach about.

I think this could also be helpful when giving advice. Is the friend on the other end of the line weary? Or is she wandering? This will influence which ‘solo’ I suggest she sing. And it could influence the tone of the whole choir.

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By: Chris

Chris — Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:15:04 +0000

Cathy,
although your tone is just a bit off-putting and sarcastic I think you make good points that speak to the need for a little less judgment and a little more compassion from some preachers. I’m also reserving the right to say I might be misreading Kevin’s comments too. These may all be categories of compassion in his mind, but I can see how they come across as stridently judgmental.
BTW, I think pastors to some extent are called to judge, for the benefit of the whole flock. Hopefully they show maturity and wisdom in doing so.

By: Cathy

Cathy — Wed, 28 Jul 2010 07:06:24 +0000

Wow! An older person that stops coming to church regularly needs warning and rebuke?? Uh, or maybe they need to be asked if all is ok, and do they need help. Or maybe they are too embarrassed that they cannot hear as well, or sit comfortably for the entire service. Sounds to me like when the coffers get lighter it is time for the guilt patrol to go out, not to mention judgment patrol… I am really amazed at this topic, and sounds like Kevin needs more vacation?? No, I am not a minister(of course not, I am female!), nor am I any kind of theological expert, but I don’t see ministers calling their congregations either weary, wandering, lazy, or lost as real helpful. I know I am a sinner, I know my heart is not pure. I know that the world calls me louder at times than God does. I need a shepherd that knows that I want to be God’s servant and am there to learn and be part of a community of people like me. Not just another lost lazy person that the poor perfect minister has to come down on. BTW Exactly when in school do you become judge?

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By: Caleb Gallifant

Caleb Gallifant — Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:13:55 +0000

Great post! Much appreciated.

By: Carol Noren Johnson

Carol Noren Johnson — Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:31:38 +0000

Thanks so much, Mike, for your thoughtful response. I will refer to it in the future–get an appointment if I need it.

One time I e-mailed my pastor that I disagreed about something related to what he said but that I was also having a lot of stress (my husband has dementia). My pastor wanted me to come in and listen to the tape again, but he didn’t pick up on the stress level at my home; I declined coming in to listen to the tape and said it was okay. Perhaps I put him too much on the defensive. His point was that the woman should dress attractively for her husband and I wanted to stress inner beauty in my e-mail to him. It wasn’t an important a point for me to come in to discuss and relisten to the tape with the pastor and elder present so I declined–would have been too much stress for me. It really was just my additional comment and I was hurting over another issue. What I really needed was shepherding for the hardest job I have even had as a caregiver. “How do I obey a husband who is losing it and our roles are changing?” was really my big question. An associate pastor, however, has picked up on other areas of preaching and shepherding in the church with his sermons. The senior pastor excellent on exegesis and theology. I am blessed and regularly tell them I appreciated the message.