Comments on: Trueman: "[J.I.] Packer is, in a sense, a failure."

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Wed, 04 Nov 2009 04:53:59 +0000

[...] a new book about the life and ministry of JI Packer. Carl Trueman contributes a chapter and argues (among other things) that JI Packer missed his opportunity to be THE leader in his generation [...]

By: E.B GARRETT

E.B GARRETT — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:34:24 +0000

Galations 6:1-10

By: Ray Ortlund

Ray Ortlund — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:52:48 +0000

"Do not pronounce judgment before the time, before the Lord comes, who will bring to light the things now hidden in darkness and will disclose the purposes of the heart. Then each one will receive his commendation from God." 1 Cor 4:5

By: Erik [J.C. Ryle Quotes]

Erik [J.C. Ryle Quotes] — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 04:32:50 +0000

Yikes! Some pretty bold comments by Carl Trueman regarding J.I. Packer: "Packer is, in a sense, a failure" at the 3:30 mark: [???] 1)"He (Packer) never wrote the great systematic theology he was capable of." 2) "His failure to come out in 1966 and challenge the authority of Martyn Lloyd-Jones as the leader of British Non-Conformist Evangelicalism." Truemann 'redeems' himself in complementing Packer's model of humility at the 4:55 mark. Overall, I think Truemann is quite gutsy in his summary of James Packer. Some, will most certainly, have a hard time swallowing Trueman's comments.

By: T.O. Smith

T.O. Smith — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:45:28 +0000

Whatever happened to "together for the gospel"? Failure. Why the name calling?

By: Peter G.

Peter G. — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:48:20 +0000

Mercy. If that's what makes one a failure we're in a heap of trouble.

By: Joel A Montes

Joel A Montes — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:46:00 +0000

Mark, you are 100% right. His opinion about Packer is really incidental. And for that matter, let's set aside what the Bible says too. What is most unsettling is its advertisement. "You can state your opinion every which way you please. Just don't advertise it." Great point.

By: Mark Pertuit

Mark Pertuit — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:12:01 +0000

I don't like the way that the Gospel Coalition titled this post; Trueman's comments don't bother me (it's his opinion, and he makes some good points), but why does his opinion have to be placarded to thousands of people as "Packer's -- in a sense --a failure." It does grab one's attention, true, but seems unnecessarily provocative, and perhaps even hurtful to Dr. Packer.

By: Joel Montes

Joel Montes — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 00:57:12 +0000

Do I detect a genetic fallacy?
Especially since his professor was William Perkins.

By: chris

chris — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:55:18 +0000

Joel,
OK, but he did write it while living in Holland. He had to breath Dutch air before he could get his thoughts together!!