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		<title>By: katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 07:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How funny, Luke, that you bring up Hebrews 13:4 which uses a form of porneia to describe sexual immorality.  And yet you will still cling to the idea that this word only means pre-marital sex.  This word couldn&#039;t possibly encompass ALL forms of sexually debased acts.  Only pre-marital sex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How funny, Luke, that you bring up Hebrews 13:4 which uses a form of porneia to describe sexual immorality.  And yet you will still cling to the idea that this word only means pre-marital sex.  This word couldn't possibly encompass ALL forms of sexually debased acts.  Only pre-marital sex.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 07:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Returning to the present situation you asked about, I want to acknowledge the mystery of all this--that one can live repentantly in an unbiblical second marriage.

How can a covenant breaker enjoy the benefits of having broken his original covenant? It is the same stunning grace God grants to happy moms who have had to repent for past abortions. 

That God allows any sinner to enjoy the benefits of his grace should be a profound mystery to us. This simply magnifies God&#039;s grace as grace--completely undeserved favor.” --Jeremy Pierre

What would you say to this wife from Washington State and what would you say to her children? God is now going to allow her husband and their father to enjoy his sin because of His grace??? 

“You may preach what you call a gospel of grace, but it is certainly not the Gospel of Jesus Christ.  What do you say to homosexuals who are married? Can they stay married after becoming Christians? Does your version of God&#039;s grace cover them, too?” 
--Jack Shannon

&quot;What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound? By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it?&quot; Romans 6:1-2 

“Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral.” Hebrews 13:4

“My husband was a church elder and business leader. We have 12 children together. Amazingly, I discovered how many adulterers were in our church as a result of his betrayal of me and our children. He gave communion, counsel and prayer during his 4 year affair with his secretary. 

My husband has now married this woman and the people who profess Christ are the LOUDEST voices that cheer them on. My husband divorced me to marry this promiscuous woman and the assistant pastor has also done the same. 

Both men divorced their wives of 20 and 35 years in the fall of 2008 and remarried their other women in the spring and early summer of 2009. The senior pastor even stood as best man for the assistant pastor in his European wedding!”--Anonymous/Washington State

Didn’t Sandi Patty, Amy Grant, Wayne Watson, Jaci Velasquez, etc., etc., etc., do the same thing? This is what’s happening in our churches.  

Over and over the world is appalled by people who have dishonored their marriage covenant (John Edwards). But not in the church, they are not appalled---they are the greatest defenders of such actions.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCsSnkaK0h8</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Returning to the present situation you asked about, I want to acknowledge the mystery of all this--that one can live repentantly in an unbiblical second marriage.</p>
<p>How can a covenant breaker enjoy the benefits of having broken his original covenant? It is the same stunning grace God grants to happy moms who have had to repent for past abortions. </p>
<p>That God allows any sinner to enjoy the benefits of his grace should be a profound mystery to us. This simply magnifies God's grace as grace--completely undeserved favor.” --Jeremy Pierre</p>
<p>What would you say to this wife from Washington State and what would you say to her children? God is now going to allow her husband and their father to enjoy his sin because of His grace??? </p>
<p>“You may preach what you call a gospel of grace, but it is certainly not the Gospel of Jesus Christ.  What do you say to homosexuals who are married? Can they stay married after becoming Christians? Does your version of God's grace cover them, too?”<br />
--Jack Shannon</p>
<p>"What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound? By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it?" Romans 6:1-2 </p>
<p>“Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral.” Hebrews 13:4</p>
<p>“My husband was a church elder and business leader. We have 12 children together. Amazingly, I discovered how many adulterers were in our church as a result of his betrayal of me and our children. He gave communion, counsel and prayer during his 4 year affair with his secretary. </p>
<p>My husband has now married this woman and the people who profess Christ are the LOUDEST voices that cheer them on. My husband divorced me to marry this promiscuous woman and the assistant pastor has also done the same. </p>
<p>Both men divorced their wives of 20 and 35 years in the fall of 2008 and remarried their other women in the spring and early summer of 2009. The senior pastor even stood as best man for the assistant pastor in his European wedding!”--Anonymous/Washington State</p>
<p>Didn’t Sandi Patty, Amy Grant, Wayne Watson, Jaci Velasquez, etc., etc., etc., do the same thing? This is what’s happening in our churches.  </p>
<p>Over and over the world is appalled by people who have dishonored their marriage covenant (John Edwards). But not in the church, they are not appalled---they are the greatest defenders of such actions.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCsSnkaK0h8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCsSnkaK0h8</a></p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/tgc/2012/04/25/you-asked-should-i-divorce-my-spouse-from-an-unbiblical-remarriage/#comment-35089</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 06:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“That is a good question...what &quot;ministers&quot; of the gospel would perform a ceremony that Jesus calls adultery?” -–MJ

Do people even know what is happening in the churches today? 

“My husband was a church elder and business leader. We have 12 children together. Amazingly, I discovered how many adulterers were in our church as a result of his betrayal of me and our children. He gave communion, counsel and prayer during his        4 year affair with his secretary. 

My husband has now married this woman and the people who profess Christ are the LOUDEST voices that cheer them on. My husband divorced me to marry this promiscuous woman and the assistant pastor has also done the same. 

Both men divorced their wives of 20 and 35 years in the fall of 2008 and remarried their other women in the spring and early summer of 2009. The senior pastor even stood as best man for the assistant pastor in his European wedding!”--Anonymous/Washington State

Didn’t Sandi Patty, Amy Grant, Wayne Watson, Jaci Velasquez, etc., etc., etc., do the same thing? This is what’s happening in our churches.  

Over and over the world is appalled by people who have dishonored their marriage covenant (John Edwards). But not in the church, they are not appalled---they are the greatest defenders of such actions.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCsSnkaK0h8 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUfIzKffv58</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“That is a good question...what "ministers" of the gospel would perform a ceremony that Jesus calls adultery?” -–MJ</p>
<p>Do people even know what is happening in the churches today? </p>
<p>“My husband was a church elder and business leader. We have 12 children together. Amazingly, I discovered how many adulterers were in our church as a result of his betrayal of me and our children. He gave communion, counsel and prayer during his        4 year affair with his secretary. </p>
<p>My husband has now married this woman and the people who profess Christ are the LOUDEST voices that cheer them on. My husband divorced me to marry this promiscuous woman and the assistant pastor has also done the same. </p>
<p>Both men divorced their wives of 20 and 35 years in the fall of 2008 and remarried their other women in the spring and early summer of 2009. The senior pastor even stood as best man for the assistant pastor in his European wedding!”--Anonymous/Washington State</p>
<p>Didn’t Sandi Patty, Amy Grant, Wayne Watson, Jaci Velasquez, etc., etc., etc., do the same thing? This is what’s happening in our churches.  </p>
<p>Over and over the world is appalled by people who have dishonored their marriage covenant (John Edwards). But not in the church, they are not appalled---they are the greatest defenders of such actions.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCsSnkaK0h8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCsSnkaK0h8</a> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUfIzKffv58" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUfIzKffv58</a></p>
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		<title>By: katie</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/tgc/2012/04/25/you-asked-should-i-divorce-my-spouse-from-an-unbiblical-remarriage/#comment-35075</link>
		<dc:creator>katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 03:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen Stephen!  People who come to the knowledge of Christ should remain as they were called!  Whatever marital state whether, never married, divorced, remarried or polygamous should remain that way!  There is no undoing the past and that is what we call &#039;freedom in Christ!&#039; There are actually a total of four prohibitions that speak to having been married more than once.  Three are spelled out for men being barred from church leadership and one is for women who have been married more than once being prohibited from being put on the widows list.

At any rate people were never told to divorce to repent.  That is a man made theology!

I do my best to refute these caims at 

divorceandremarriagecults.blogspot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen Stephen!  People who come to the knowledge of Christ should remain as they were called!  Whatever marital state whether, never married, divorced, remarried or polygamous should remain that way!  There is no undoing the past and that is what we call 'freedom in Christ!' There are actually a total of four prohibitions that speak to having been married more than once.  Three are spelled out for men being barred from church leadership and one is for women who have been married more than once being prohibited from being put on the widows list.</p>
<p>At any rate people were never told to divorce to repent.  That is a man made theology!</p>
<p>I do my best to refute these caims at </p>
<p>divorceandremarriagecults.blogspot</p>
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		<title>By: katie</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/tgc/2012/04/25/you-asked-should-i-divorce-my-spouse-from-an-unbiblical-remarriage/#comment-35074</link>
		<dc:creator>katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 02:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you know of anyonme who interested in reading why &#039;divorce-to-repent&#039; is a false doctrine you can direct them to my blog.  

Divorceandremarriagecults.blogspot

There is a growing thoelogy that states that a person MUST &#039;divorce-to-repent&#039; and I do my best to refute these claims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you know of anyonme who interested in reading why 'divorce-to-repent' is a false doctrine you can direct them to my blog.  </p>
<p>Divorceandremarriagecults.blogspot</p>
<p>There is a growing thoelogy that states that a person MUST 'divorce-to-repent' and I do my best to refute these claims.</p>
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		<title>By: katie</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/tgc/2012/04/25/you-asked-should-i-divorce-my-spouse-from-an-unbiblical-remarriage/#comment-35036</link>
		<dc:creator>katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2012 08:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MJ

I added to my blog:

http://divorceandremarriagecults.blogspot.com/

especially some of the places in which you commented.

Have you checked this link out?

http://www.ntwords.com/adultery.htm

Marrying someone after they have been divorced and referring to it as though it were theft is something I pondered and so I did deticate a post to that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MJ</p>
<p>I added to my blog:</p>
<p><a href="http://divorceandremarriagecults.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://divorceandremarriagecults.blogspot.com/</a></p>
<p>especially some of the places in which you commented.</p>
<p>Have you checked this link out?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ntwords.com/adultery.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.ntwords.com/adultery.htm</a></p>
<p>Marrying someone after they have been divorced and referring to it as though it were theft is something I pondered and so I did deticate a post to that.</p>
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		<title>By: katie</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/tgc/2012/04/25/you-asked-should-i-divorce-my-spouse-from-an-unbiblical-remarriage/#comment-35034</link>
		<dc:creator>katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2012 07:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,

Jesus was actually recorded as stating, Matthew 5:32, &#039;whosoever divorces his wife...causes her to commit adultery, and ANYONE who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.&#039;  The divorce adulterates people because they are put into a position of faithlessness.  And once someone has been faithless to a covenant they are adulterated.  Once a person is adulterated and they marry someone, including a former spouse, that former spouse commits adultery too because they are marrying a person who has been faithless to a covenant.  It like guilt by association in a way.  Adultery isn&#039;t sexual. People assume that this is the definition of adultery:

Voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and a person who is not his or her spouse.

The truth is this (please read the link):

http://www.ntwords.com/adultery.htm

The adulteration of the people is faithlessness to their word by divorcing.  Being faithless to your word adulterates you.  It actually defiles the essence of your being in a manner that you would now be called an adulterer even without having intercourse with another.

Remeber how important God&#039;s word is?  If he were to violate His word he would corrupt or defile (adulterate) Himself and then He would also adulterate anyone He would try to enter into a relationship with.  God&#039;s word and His loyalty to His word is the essence of who He is and since we were created in God&#039;s image we too have our word which is the essence of who we are.

You can commit adultery by marrying one you have been divorced from because:

a) the adultery is a one time occurance (not ongoing).  If we look at &#039;whosoever, divorces (one time action) his wife, and marries (one time action) another commits (one time) adultery.  Even if they marry the former spouse again they adulterate eachother because they are creating a new &#039;covenant&#039; that is to superceed the former one.  The only way to marry again after a divorce is to commit adultery through creating a new agreement because both parties publicly rescinded the first agreement by divorcing each other.

b) The adultery is non-sexual.  It is defilement.  If you look up the Latin word adulterare this is where we get the word adultery from.  We also get the word adulterate from adulterare and to adulterate means to defile.

Divorce is real, it&#039;s real every time it truly defiles people because it causes them to be faithless to their word which is the essence of who they (we) are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>Jesus was actually recorded as stating, Matthew 5:32, 'whosoever divorces his wife...causes her to commit adultery, and ANYONE who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.'  The divorce adulterates people because they are put into a position of faithlessness.  And once someone has been faithless to a covenant they are adulterated.  Once a person is adulterated and they marry someone, including a former spouse, that former spouse commits adultery too because they are marrying a person who has been faithless to a covenant.  It like guilt by association in a way.  Adultery isn't sexual. People assume that this is the definition of adultery:</p>
<p>Voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and a person who is not his or her spouse.</p>
<p>The truth is this (please read the link):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ntwords.com/adultery.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.ntwords.com/adultery.htm</a></p>
<p>The adulteration of the people is faithlessness to their word by divorcing.  Being faithless to your word adulterates you.  It actually defiles the essence of your being in a manner that you would now be called an adulterer even without having intercourse with another.</p>
<p>Remeber how important God's word is?  If he were to violate His word he would corrupt or defile (adulterate) Himself and then He would also adulterate anyone He would try to enter into a relationship with.  God's word and His loyalty to His word is the essence of who He is and since we were created in God's image we too have our word which is the essence of who we are.</p>
<p>You can commit adultery by marrying one you have been divorced from because:</p>
<p>a) the adultery is a one time occurance (not ongoing).  If we look at 'whosoever, divorces (one time action) his wife, and marries (one time action) another commits (one time) adultery.  Even if they marry the former spouse again they adulterate eachother because they are creating a new 'covenant' that is to superceed the former one.  The only way to marry again after a divorce is to commit adultery through creating a new agreement because both parties publicly rescinded the first agreement by divorcing each other.</p>
<p>b) The adultery is non-sexual.  It is defilement.  If you look up the Latin word adulterare this is where we get the word adultery from.  We also get the word adulterate from adulterare and to adulterate means to defile.</p>
<p>Divorce is real, it's real every time it truly defiles people because it causes them to be faithless to their word which is the essence of who they (we) are.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/tgc/2012/04/25/you-asked-should-i-divorce-my-spouse-from-an-unbiblical-remarriage/#comment-35029</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2012 03:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Lastly, I depart from the cadz crowd&#039;s allowance for someone to stay with their first spouse because after someone divorces their second, third, fourth, whatever spouse they are now a divorced person and Jesus says that if a divorced person marries they are committing adultery.” --Jack Shannon

What??? 

You can&#039;t commit adultery with your own spouse who you are still bound to for life...Roman 7 and 1 Corinthians 7:39.

Jesus said you commit adultery if you marry ANOTHER...someone other than your first spouse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Lastly, I depart from the cadz crowd's allowance for someone to stay with their first spouse because after someone divorces their second, third, fourth, whatever spouse they are now a divorced person and Jesus says that if a divorced person marries they are committing adultery.” --Jack Shannon</p>
<p>What??? </p>
<p>You can't commit adultery with your own spouse who you are still bound to for life...Roman 7 and 1 Corinthians 7:39.</p>
<p>Jesus said you commit adultery if you marry ANOTHER...someone other than your first spouse.</p>
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		<title>By: katie</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/tgc/2012/04/25/you-asked-should-i-divorce-my-spouse-from-an-unbiblical-remarriage/#comment-34754</link>
		<dc:creator>katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2012 06:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ezra tears out his beard because he fears the Lord will punish Israel severely if the men don&#039;t divorce.  Ezra is able to get most of the men to divorce but not all of them and God never punishes Israel even though a few of the men remained married.  That is overreacted.  God just didn&#039;t want for the men to marry these foriegn WIVES in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ezra tears out his beard because he fears the Lord will punish Israel severely if the men don't divorce.  Ezra is able to get most of the men to divorce but not all of them and God never punishes Israel even though a few of the men remained married.  That is overreacted.  God just didn't want for the men to marry these foriegn WIVES in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: katie</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/tgc/2012/04/25/you-asked-should-i-divorce-my-spouse-from-an-unbiblical-remarriage/#comment-34708</link>
		<dc:creator>katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 14:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was the hand of the Lord on Ezra during this situation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was the hand of the Lord on Ezra during this situation?</p>
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