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	<title>Comments on: Study: Watching Pornography Increases Support for Adultery and Same-Sex Marriage</title>
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		<title>By: Melody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2013 21:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See I think we lost this one when good looking women started making out in TV shows on Network stations. Then single gals started doing that in bars and spring break vacations to attract the attention of men.  Is there nothing that women will lower themselves to just to get a man to look at them?  Now we have the sissy men on network shows playing house and trying to be mommies. None of it reflects real life but draw the men in with sex and the women with male girlfriends to hang out with and the battle is lost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See I think we lost this one when good looking women started making out in TV shows on Network stations. Then single gals started doing that in bars and spring break vacations to attract the attention of men.  Is there nothing that women will lower themselves to just to get a man to look at them?  Now we have the sissy men on network shows playing house and trying to be mommies. None of it reflects real life but draw the men in with sex and the women with male girlfriends to hang out with and the battle is lost.</p>
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		<title>By: ned dominick</title>
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		<dc:creator>ned dominick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Apr 2013 19:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have narrowly avoided landing in divorce court after my wife of many years discovered that I had been using internet porn. She was furious as she equate porn use with cheating. In addition she was hurt and became extremely distrustful.

As I want to stay married and enjoy my family, I agreed to stop using the porn but soon was horrified to discover that I had apparently developed and addiction to it and could not seem to put it down. So I began staying late at the office and getting in the wee hours of the night to feed the addiction. Of course I got caught again and it hit the fan.

I got kicked out of the house, an attorney was called and things were going south rapidly. I was commiserating with a friend about the whole thing when he suggested that an internet filter might be helpful. It is software that will actually block access to the porn sites. So I discussed this with my wife who agreed to give it a try. The problem remained that she still didn&#039;t trust me so I found a filter that included something called accountability reporting. This allows a partner, my wife in this case, to access a browsing history that cannot be erased. Even more compelling is that it will send email alert if the software detects that I am trying to break through the filter to the porn sites.

There are several filters that do this. I am using one called http://www.wisechoice.net .
 It sounds as though I am in a prison but really it is a relief. I have a handle on an addiction that was going to ruin my life and more importantly I have moved back home, and trust is being rebuilt. I hope this is helpful to someone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have narrowly avoided landing in divorce court after my wife of many years discovered that I had been using internet porn. She was furious as she equate porn use with cheating. In addition she was hurt and became extremely distrustful.</p>
<p>As I want to stay married and enjoy my family, I agreed to stop using the porn but soon was horrified to discover that I had apparently developed and addiction to it and could not seem to put it down. So I began staying late at the office and getting in the wee hours of the night to feed the addiction. Of course I got caught again and it hit the fan.</p>
<p>I got kicked out of the house, an attorney was called and things were going south rapidly. I was commiserating with a friend about the whole thing when he suggested that an internet filter might be helpful. It is software that will actually block access to the porn sites. So I discussed this with my wife who agreed to give it a try. The problem remained that she still didn't trust me so I found a filter that included something called accountability reporting. This allows a partner, my wife in this case, to access a browsing history that cannot be erased. Even more compelling is that it will send email alert if the software detects that I am trying to break through the filter to the porn sites.</p>
<p>There are several filters that do this. I am using one called <a href="http://www.wisechoice.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.wisechoice.net</a> .<br />
 It sounds as though I am in a prison but really it is a relief. I have a handle on an addiction that was going to ruin my life and more importantly I have moved back home, and trust is being rebuilt. I hope this is helpful to someone.</p>
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		<title>By: ned dominick</title>
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		<dc:creator>ned dominick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 03:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is something disgraceful in Christians playing dumb regarding internet porn. The statistical reality is that 50% of Christian men are using porn and that the impact on us is the same as on the secular world. When you gorge on hours of porn pretty soon it begins to seem normal. This can be homosexual porn, A little bondage, some sex toys and then let&#039;s try to get the wife to play. There is nothing, nothing good about porn. It will destroy your marriage, your ministry your career and may put you in prison. Men are almost immediately captured by porn and for most the only way to stay away from it is to get off the net (impractical) or install a high quality filter without a bypass. One such filter is http:www.wisechoice.net/forchristians  they also have a discussion board at http://discuss.wisechoice.net where you can find thousands of posts from those ensnared. Pastors, I am talking to younas well...stop it before you are dragged down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is something disgraceful in Christians playing dumb regarding internet porn. The statistical reality is that 50% of Christian men are using porn and that the impact on us is the same as on the secular world. When you gorge on hours of porn pretty soon it begins to seem normal. This can be homosexual porn, A little bondage, some sex toys and then let's try to get the wife to play. There is nothing, nothing good about porn. It will destroy your marriage, your ministry your career and may put you in prison. Men are almost immediately captured by porn and for most the only way to stay away from it is to get off the net (impractical) or install a high quality filter without a bypass. One such filter is http:www.wisechoice.net/forchristians  they also have a discussion board at <a href="http://discuss.wisechoice.net" rel="nofollow">http://discuss.wisechoice.net</a> where you can find thousands of posts from those ensnared. Pastors, I am talking to younas well...stop it before you are dragged down.</p>
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		<title>By: Study Says Porn and Same Sex “Marriage” Are Linked &#124;</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/tgc/2013/02/20/study-watching-pornography-increases-support-for-adultery-and-same-sex-marriage/#comment-67015</link>
		<dc:creator>Study Says Porn and Same Sex “Marriage” Are Linked &#124;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2013 12:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Joe Carter, writing at The Gospel Coalition, reiterates that pornography has already had a profound impact on our society: “Pornography has [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Joe Carter, writing at The Gospel Coalition, reiterates that pornography has already had a profound impact on our society: “Pornography has [...]</p>
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		<title>By: pba</title>
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		<dc:creator>pba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 14:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe and Rachel,

Very informative posts, thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe and Rachel,</p>
<p>Very informative posts, thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Shepherd Links &#8211; 2/23 &#124; Pastoralized</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/tgc/2013/02/20/study-watching-pornography-increases-support-for-adultery-and-same-sex-marriage/#comment-66141</link>
		<dc:creator>Shepherd Links &#8211; 2/23 &#124; Pastoralized</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 13:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] video The Science of Pornography explains the physiology of the addiction. A study has shown that pornography use is connected to our culture&#8217;s acceptance of adultery and homosexual marriage. This article from Brian Croft shows how a husband should move forward after revealing his porn [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] video The Science of Pornography explains the physiology of the addiction. A study has shown that pornography use is connected to our culture&#8217;s acceptance of adultery and homosexual marriage. This article from Brian Croft shows how a husband should move forward after revealing his porn [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 03:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a man who has dealt with porn for the majority of my life (and I am only 36), I would say that rationalization is not the same.  Breaking the speed limit and viewing porn are not even on the same level.  And I am speaking of Christians, not unbelievers.  I cannot speak to the rationalization if there is one for an unbeliever.  If they have moral convictions, they would obviously be rationalizing, but they would be different (I hope) from a Christians.  

From experience, I would say the deceptiveness of my heart has rarely left me aware of what rationalizations I am giving myself at that time.  After extended use, much like a drug (and it&#039;s effects are similar to a drug) there is little thought involved and needed and it essentially becomes a compulsion much the same way smoking is or biting your nails or any similar habitual behavior we have.  It hi-jacks you.  

There is a GREAT book called Wired for Intimacy by Bill Struthers that anyone interested in the effects of porn should read.  It has a DRAMATIC effect on the way we THINK and FEEL.  Not only about behaviors, but within ourselves and our imaginations.  It alters the who you are at the brain level whether you want it to or not, or whether you are aware of it or not.  It&#039;s sin, it&#039;s brutally deceptive.

What this article is saying is an obvious effect of consuming pornography; my 10 year old could tell us that if I laid it out for her.  We have a currently popular Christian video series where a lovable vegetable gets carried away when dresses up as a super hero.  Kids get that and laugh.  Whether on a statistical scale we can say that or not, the larger message is frightening if you trace it out.

One last point, I do think porn is part of the culture more than people realize.  I liked that the article pointed that out.  I have thought that for a long time and think there is much in the fashion, art, literature, etc., that shows up as an outcropping of porn/the sex trade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a man who has dealt with porn for the majority of my life (and I am only 36), I would say that rationalization is not the same.  Breaking the speed limit and viewing porn are not even on the same level.  And I am speaking of Christians, not unbelievers.  I cannot speak to the rationalization if there is one for an unbeliever.  If they have moral convictions, they would obviously be rationalizing, but they would be different (I hope) from a Christians.  </p>
<p>From experience, I would say the deceptiveness of my heart has rarely left me aware of what rationalizations I am giving myself at that time.  After extended use, much like a drug (and it's effects are similar to a drug) there is little thought involved and needed and it essentially becomes a compulsion much the same way smoking is or biting your nails or any similar habitual behavior we have.  It hi-jacks you.  </p>
<p>There is a GREAT book called Wired for Intimacy by Bill Struthers that anyone interested in the effects of porn should read.  It has a DRAMATIC effect on the way we THINK and FEEL.  Not only about behaviors, but within ourselves and our imaginations.  It alters the who you are at the brain level whether you want it to or not, or whether you are aware of it or not.  It's sin, it's brutally deceptive.</p>
<p>What this article is saying is an obvious effect of consuming pornography; my 10 year old could tell us that if I laid it out for her.  We have a currently popular Christian video series where a lovable vegetable gets carried away when dresses up as a super hero.  Kids get that and laugh.  Whether on a statistical scale we can say that or not, the larger message is frightening if you trace it out.</p>
<p>One last point, I do think porn is part of the culture more than people realize.  I liked that the article pointed that out.  I have thought that for a long time and think there is much in the fashion, art, literature, etc., that shows up as an outcropping of porn/the sex trade.</p>
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		<title>By: Melody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 21:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No those are different than the ones that I came up with but within there is the similar vein running through that God expects us to submit to the government and the reasons that you gave, while very good, would do you no good in court. And really do not promote your testimony in anyway. Well except that you know you are guarding against self-righteousness.  I&#039;m pretty sure that there are mature Christians that can manage it  but I&#039;m not one.

So do you think it is the same kind of rationalization? From the men that you have spoken to, that is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No those are different than the ones that I came up with but within there is the similar vein running through that God expects us to submit to the government and the reasons that you gave, while very good, would do you no good in court. And really do not promote your testimony in anyway. Well except that you know you are guarding against self-righteousness.  I'm pretty sure that there are mature Christians that can manage it  but I'm not one.</p>
<p>So do you think it is the same kind of rationalization? From the men that you have spoken to, that is.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 20:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe - While you are on the topic of correlations, we should be clear about the strength of the correlation found in this study. Pornography consumption and support of same-sex marriage is not a strongly correlated variable as you seem to imply you believe it to be.  If you review your copy of the journal article, page 10 Table 1 shows that T1 pornography is correlated with T3 same-sex marriage, r=.29. This is considered at the upper end of weak and lowest end of moderate correlations, which indicates a weak to moderate relationship between the two. Additionally, the T2 pornography correlation with T3 same-sex marriage is r=.25, which is also a weak correlation and shows that the correlation possibly weakens over time. However remember that education has a moderating relationship between the variables in the regression model. This is why as researchers, we rely on more than just correlations when modeling interactions and relationships between variables. So while there is a correlation, it is not a strong correlation and one should be careful when making interpretations about that finding.  Additionally, the results related to pornography and same sex marriage which you talk about (i.e. one causing the other) are not found in correlational analyses. You said &quot;So when we say that A and B are strongly correlated we are not necessarily saying that A necessarily and always causes B, but that without the presence of cause A, cause B would be less likely to have occurred. I think that is how we should interpret this current study.&quot; This is a surprising claim you make given that the authors of this article in no way claimed a strong correlation between the two previously mentioned variables and in no way claimed that without the presence of pornography, support for same sex marriage would be less likely to have occurred. I think maybe you are confused about correlations, regressions, causal models, moderating variables and exactly how those findings are reported and interpreted in the research community.  If TGC is going to start using academic articles and scientific research, y&#039;all should probably make sure you can talk accurately about these articles, data analytic strategies, how to interpret findings, and address the totality of the study, not just a portion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe - While you are on the topic of correlations, we should be clear about the strength of the correlation found in this study. Pornography consumption and support of same-sex marriage is not a strongly correlated variable as you seem to imply you believe it to be.  If you review your copy of the journal article, page 10 Table 1 shows that T1 pornography is correlated with T3 same-sex marriage, r=.29. This is considered at the upper end of weak and lowest end of moderate correlations, which indicates a weak to moderate relationship between the two. Additionally, the T2 pornography correlation with T3 same-sex marriage is r=.25, which is also a weak correlation and shows that the correlation possibly weakens over time. However remember that education has a moderating relationship between the variables in the regression model. This is why as researchers, we rely on more than just correlations when modeling interactions and relationships between variables. So while there is a correlation, it is not a strong correlation and one should be careful when making interpretations about that finding.  Additionally, the results related to pornography and same sex marriage which you talk about (i.e. one causing the other) are not found in correlational analyses. You said "So when we say that A and B are strongly correlated we are not necessarily saying that A necessarily and always causes B, but that without the presence of cause A, cause B would be less likely to have occurred. I think that is how we should interpret this current study." This is a surprising claim you make given that the authors of this article in no way claimed a strong correlation between the two previously mentioned variables and in no way claimed that without the presence of pornography, support for same sex marriage would be less likely to have occurred. I think maybe you are confused about correlations, regressions, causal models, moderating variables and exactly how those findings are reported and interpreted in the research community.  If TGC is going to start using academic articles and scientific research, y'all should probably make sure you can talk accurately about these articles, data analytic strategies, how to interpret findings, and address the totality of the study, not just a portion.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 19:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Is it similar to the reasoning that we use for breaking the speed 
&gt;limit?

My reasoning for breaking the speed limit - in the moderate and safe ways that approximately everyone else does - is multipart.

For one thing, the governing authorities do not actually *want* me to literally obey all of their posted speed limits. In addition to their desire for ticket revenue, they know perfectly well that many of our roads would grind to a standstill if we all did that. Not to mention that high speed differentials (as when a few church ladies go much slower than everyone else) are in fact more dangerous than high speeds.

The other thing is that my slavishly following all speed limits - even as the parade forms behind me and everyone gnashes their teeth at me for making them late - would be more about my praising my own goodness and would be quite unloving of my neighbor.

Sorry for the tangent - always wanted a chance to get that off my chest in a Christian forum :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Is it similar to the reasoning that we use for breaking the speed<br />
&gt;limit?</p>
<p>My reasoning for breaking the speed limit - in the moderate and safe ways that approximately everyone else does - is multipart.</p>
<p>For one thing, the governing authorities do not actually *want* me to literally obey all of their posted speed limits. In addition to their desire for ticket revenue, they know perfectly well that many of our roads would grind to a standstill if we all did that. Not to mention that high speed differentials (as when a few church ladies go much slower than everyone else) are in fact more dangerous than high speeds.</p>
<p>The other thing is that my slavishly following all speed limits - even as the parade forms behind me and everyone gnashes their teeth at me for making them late - would be more about my praising my own goodness and would be quite unloving of my neighbor.</p>
<p>Sorry for the tangent - always wanted a chance to get that off my chest in a Christian forum :)</p>
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