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		<title>By: &#8216;Why We&#8217;re Not Emergent&#8230;&#8217; &#8211; Some Online Reviews &#124; Walking With Giants</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8216;Why We&#8217;re Not Emergent&#8230;&#8217; &#8211; Some Online Reviews &#124; Walking With Giants</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: &#8216;Why We&#8217;re Not Emergent&#8230;&#8217; - Online Reviews &#171; JEMblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8216;Why We&#8217;re Not Emergent&#8230;&#8217; - Online Reviews &#171; JEMblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 08:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dan Glover</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Glover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 22:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Trevin.  I appreciate your review and I also appreciated &quot;Not Emergent&quot;.  Something that struck me about a well known Emergent leader in his critique of D.A. Carson&#039;s book, &quot;Becoming Conversant with the Emergent Church&quot;, was his challenge to Carson about how Carson shouldn&#039;t speak critically of the Emergent church if he&#039;s never visited one.  This thinking is flawed in a few ways, two of which I want to comment on.  First, from the scathing caricatures the Emergent leaders build of evangelical churches, this challenge could be pointed back at them.  What evangelical churches have you been in lately that don&#039;t at all care about personal relationship with God (for example)?  Secondly, if Carson must visit their churches in order to get a proper view of who they are and what they believe and teach (or discuss), then what makes up the content of their books?  Are they not faithfully representing themselves in their written material?  If not, why are they writing it?  If someone can&#039;t take them at their written word and comment and reflect upon it as a true respresetation of what they are all about, they had better stop writing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Trevin.  I appreciate your review and I also appreciated &#8220;Not Emergent&#8221;.  Something that struck me about a well known Emergent leader in his critique of D.A. Carson&#8217;s book, &#8220;Becoming Conversant with the Emergent Church&#8221;, was his challenge to Carson about how Carson shouldn&#8217;t speak critically of the Emergent church if he&#8217;s never visited one.  This thinking is flawed in a few ways, two of which I want to comment on.  First, from the scathing caricatures the Emergent leaders build of evangelical churches, this challenge could be pointed back at them.  What evangelical churches have you been in lately that don&#8217;t at all care about personal relationship with God (for example)?  Secondly, if Carson must visit their churches in order to get a proper view of who they are and what they believe and teach (or discuss), then what makes up the content of their books?  Are they not faithfully representing themselves in their written material?  If not, why are they writing it?  If someone can&#8217;t take them at their written word and comment and reflect upon it as a true respresetation of what they are all about, they had better stop writing.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 13:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A couple of years ago I went to a pastor&#039;s conference that featured Brian McLaren. The buzz in the audience was that Brian woundn&#039;t articulate what he believes. At that time I didn&#039;t think he owed us an explanation. (like Jesus and the Pharisees) But now I think it is arrogant of Emergent leaders not to articulate what they believe. I think integrity calls for that now as the movement is maturing.  It keeps them above the fray of the conflicts that denominations have to deal with. Like the Episcopal church issue and some of the New Perspective issues in the Reformed camp. I think it is honorable to stick with your &quot;family&quot; and work on the divisions as opposed to an elitist stance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of years ago I went to a pastor&#8217;s conference that featured Brian McLaren. The buzz in the audience was that Brian woundn&#8217;t articulate what he believes. At that time I didn&#8217;t think he owed us an explanation. (like Jesus and the Pharisees) But now I think it is arrogant of Emergent leaders not to articulate what they believe. I think integrity calls for that now as the movement is maturing.  It keeps them above the fray of the conflicts that denominations have to deal with. Like the Episcopal church issue and some of the New Perspective issues in the Reformed camp. I think it is honorable to stick with your &#8220;family&#8221; and work on the divisions as opposed to an elitist stance.</p>
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		<title>By: Raffi Shahinian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raffi Shahinian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 17:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trevin,

I&#039;m just getting started on it, maybe a third of the way through, so far. And I&#039;ve glanced at a number of reviews, etc., in the blogosphere, and the overarching consensus (which you seem to share)is that these guys have &quot;a generous but valid critique&quot; of the emerging conversation. And I see the generosity. Actually, its kind of funny how the book reads much like an emergent critique of the modern church, just the other way around.

The book starts off expressing frustration about how trying to critique the movement is like &quot;trying to nail Jell-O to a wall.&quot; In other words, the authors are frustrated that they cannot pin the movement down to one set of articulable beliefs. It sounds like the same frustration that the scribes and the Pharisees must have felt.

But I digress.

Like I said, I see the &quot;generous&quot; part, but I don&#039;t get much of where the critique is, outside the hidden argument that &quot;these emergent guys are saying things that don&#039;t jive with our Reformed tradition, and the foundations on which that tradition is based.&quot; In other words, the line of thought (so far, to be fair) is that &quot;these emerging types are saying A, B, and C, but since we know that Luther and Calvin said C, D, and E, be weary of them and their newfangled efforts to get you to forget D and E.&quot;

Having said that, I&#039;m enjoying the book.

Grace and Peace,
Raffi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trevin,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just getting started on it, maybe a third of the way through, so far. And I&#8217;ve glanced at a number of reviews, etc., in the blogosphere, and the overarching consensus (which you seem to share)is that these guys have &#8220;a generous but valid critique&#8221; of the emerging conversation. And I see the generosity. Actually, its kind of funny how the book reads much like an emergent critique of the modern church, just the other way around.</p>
<p>The book starts off expressing frustration about how trying to critique the movement is like &#8220;trying to nail Jell-O to a wall.&#8221; In other words, the authors are frustrated that they cannot pin the movement down to one set of articulable beliefs. It sounds like the same frustration that the scribes and the Pharisees must have felt.</p>
<p>But I digress.</p>
<p>Like I said, I see the &#8220;generous&#8221; part, but I don&#8217;t get much of where the critique is, outside the hidden argument that &#8220;these emergent guys are saying things that don&#8217;t jive with our Reformed tradition, and the foundations on which that tradition is based.&#8221; In other words, the line of thought (so far, to be fair) is that &#8220;these emerging types are saying A, B, and C, but since we know that Luther and Calvin said C, D, and E, be weary of them and their newfangled efforts to get you to forget D and E.&#8221;</p>
<p>Having said that, I&#8217;m enjoying the book.</p>
<p>Grace and Peace,<br />
Raffi</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Awbrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Awbrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 13:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trevin,

Thanks for the review. I just finished reading the book as well, about a week ago. Read it with another friend/pastor and found it wonderfully helpful to come together once a week and discuss a couple chapters.

BTW, this book is a model of how a critic ought to be done.</description>
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<p>Thanks for the review. I just finished reading the book as well, about a week ago. Read it with another friend/pastor and found it wonderfully helpful to come together once a week and discuss a couple chapters.</p>
<p>BTW, this book is a model of how a critic ought to be done.</p>
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