Comments on: Which Crown Do You Want? http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/trevinwax/2009/02/28/which-crown-do-you-want/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=which-crown-do-you-want Kingdom People - Living on Earth as Citizens of Heaven Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:38:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: theoldadam http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/trevinwax/2009/02/28/which-crown-do-you-want/#comment-4249 theoldadam Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:26:05 +0000 http://trevinwax.com/?p=2859#comment-4249 His. His.

]]> By: Demian Farnworth http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/trevinwax/2009/02/28/which-crown-do-you-want/#comment-4248 Demian Farnworth Mon, 02 Mar 2009 02:37:16 +0000 http://trevinwax.com/?p=2859#comment-4248 Hey Tom, I appreciate the clarity. I guess I'm not seeing why you should be concerned. Granted, Trevin just quoted one sentence, taking it out of context, so who knows what's embedded around it. I guess that was on purpose so we'll get the book. ;-) Take care. Hey Tom, I appreciate the clarity. I guess I’m not seeing why you should be concerned. Granted, Trevin just quoted one sentence, taking it out of context, so who knows what’s embedded around it. I guess that was on purpose so we’ll get the book. ;-)

Take care.

]]> By: Tom Kushman http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/trevinwax/2009/02/28/which-crown-do-you-want/#comment-4254 Tom Kushman Sun, 01 Mar 2009 05:23:45 +0000 http://trevinwax.com/?p=2859#comment-4254 Last sentence should read... "Maybe Trevin, based..." Sorry. Last sentence should read… “Maybe Trevin, based…” Sorry.

]]> By: Tom Kushman http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/trevinwax/2009/02/28/which-crown-do-you-want/#comment-4253 Tom Kushman Sun, 01 Mar 2009 05:22:33 +0000 http://trevinwax.com/?p=2859#comment-4253 Let me make clear: I believe in the unique, substitutionary atonement of Jesus on behalf of the elect who receive the benefits through faith alone, and I very much appreciate Luther's thought on Theologia Crucis. I don't think either of you understand my comment and/or can't imagine that the quote may be in fact ill-considered. It is the ideas that would produce the thought expressed in the quote that gives me pause and concern. Concern because it seems to me to have as its basis too shallow of perception of the Lord Jesus' Person and Mission. May Trevin, based on the other things I've read of your on this blog, I expected more. That's all. Let me make clear: I believe in the unique, substitutionary atonement of Jesus on behalf of the elect who receive the benefits through faith alone, and I very much appreciate Luther’s thought on Theologia Crucis. I don’t think either of you understand my comment and/or can’t imagine that the quote may be in fact ill-considered. It is the ideas that would produce the thought expressed in the quote that gives me pause and concern. Concern because it seems to me to have as its basis too shallow of perception of the Lord Jesus’ Person and Mission. May Trevin, based on the other things I’ve read of your on this blog, I expected more. That’s all.

]]> By: Demian Farnworth http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/trevinwax/2009/02/28/which-crown-do-you-want/#comment-4252 Demian Farnworth Sat, 28 Feb 2009 23:54:00 +0000 http://trevinwax.com/?p=2859#comment-4252 Tom: a crown of thorn suggests suffering, defeat and submission. As does the cross. The point of the Gospels--the entire Bible--is that first and foremost Jesus is an object we worship, not an example we follow. Tom: a crown of thorn suggests suffering, defeat and submission. As does the cross. The point of the Gospels–the entire Bible–is that first and foremost Jesus is an object we worship, not an example we follow.

]]> By: Trevin Wax http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/trevinwax/2009/02/28/which-crown-do-you-want/#comment-4251 Trevin Wax Sat, 28 Feb 2009 13:09:35 +0000 http://trevinwax.com/?p=2859#comment-4251 The true marks of his success were his suffering and dying for the sins of the world. It is in his obedience unto death that Jesus is ultimately faithful. The true marks of his success were his suffering and dying for the sins of the world. It is in his obedience unto death that Jesus is ultimately faithful.

]]> By: Tom Kushman http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/trevinwax/2009/02/28/which-crown-do-you-want/#comment-4250 Tom Kushman Sat, 28 Feb 2009 13:07:26 +0000 http://trevinwax.com/?p=2859#comment-4250 I don't know about the ideas which produce this thought. It seems to me that Jesus was pretty "successful" as defined by the Ruling Elite... and pretty much in their face about it. The dualistic "either-or" just doesn't seem to fit the portrayal we have of Jesus in the Gospels I don't think. It seems to me that Jesus was "both/and" when it came to "success" and "suffering"... He seems to have lived out of a whole different set of categories. I don’t know about the ideas which produce this thought. It seems to me that Jesus was pretty “successful” as defined by the Ruling Elite… and pretty much in their face about it. The dualistic “either-or” just doesn’t seem to fit the portrayal we have of Jesus in the Gospels I don’t think. It seems to me that Jesus was “both/and” when it came to “success” and “suffering”… He seems to have lived out of a whole different set of categories.

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