http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/trevinwax/2009/04/28/the-other-side-of-william-whitsitt/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-other-side-of-william-whitsitt Kingdom People - Living on Earth as Citizens of Heaven Thu, 09 Feb 2012 19:33:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/trevinwax/2009/04/28/the-other-side-of-william-whitsitt/#comment-4688 Dr. James Willingham Sat, 22 May 2010 02:12:08 +0000 http://trevinwax.com/?p=3154#comment-4688 Having done six years of research in Baptist History from the perspective of being at the time a Landmarker and of proving the excusive nature of Landmarkism as untenable, I still find the idea that Whitsitt and others have argued about Particular Baptists all beginning with the Jessey church as simply untenable. John T. Christian's works in the area answered with plenty of contradictory details. However, the records for establishing a Landmark view do not exist, and there is the fact that the doctrine of the church is two-sided and apparently contradictory (not true contradition but apparent and which cannot be reconciled), namely, universal and spiritual while also being local, visible, and democratic (every member having the right and the duty to paticipate in the government o the church). J.R. Graves made a definite contribution to ecclesiology in his work on Intercommunion and Karl Schmidt's article on Ekklesia in Kittel's is simply wanting in perception, because he never read Graves' exegesis of Oklos and Ekklesia in Acts 19. That was one of the few times, when a populist preacher really did make a telling argument. As to the other, link chains, etc., are meaningless in one sense, if a church can be raised up from these very stones. Interestingly enough in The Lollards of the Chiltern Hills we find some of the same family names are listed as Baptists after the Reformation. Again, there are churches in America which began in Wales and were cncerned to get their baptism from a church in Olchon Wales, a church that likely had a prereformation origin. The Waldensians, accordingto Inquisitor Reinarius Saccho in the 12 century, had churches in Constantinople and Philadelphia (like in Rev. 3 Philadelphia). In another source, from the 1400s I found that the Waldensians sent a committee to check on a church in South India!!!! The first group I foused on in my researches in church history was the Waldensians. I began the research in the Spring of 1963. Forty years later I was moved to tears to have a Waldensian introduce himself to me after I had preached in a rural church in Western North Carolina. He was from Valdese, and another form of their name. Two-sided truths are what gave Baptists in the 16-1700s their liberal, balanced, flexible, creative, and magnetic power that enabled them to make such a great contribution to Church and Worl History. If we knew and understand biblical teachings better, we could likely regain a position of influence in human affairs that would enable us to better advance our Lord's cause. Having done six years of research in Baptist History from the perspective of being at the time a Landmarker and of proving the excusive nature of Landmarkism as untenable, I still find the idea that Whitsitt and others have argued about Particular Baptists all beginning with the Jessey church as simply untenable. John T. Christian’s works in the area answered with plenty of contradictory details. However, the records for establishing a Landmark view do not exist, and there is the fact that the doctrine of the church is two-sided and apparently contradictory (not true contradition but apparent and which cannot be reconciled), namely, universal and spiritual while also being local, visible, and democratic (every member having the right and the duty to paticipate in the government o the church). J.R. Graves made a definite contribution to ecclesiology in his work on Intercommunion and Karl Schmidt’s article on Ekklesia in Kittel’s is simply wanting in perception, because he never read Graves’ exegesis of Oklos and Ekklesia in Acts 19. That was one of the few times, when a populist preacher really did make a telling argument. As to the other, link chains, etc., are meaningless in one sense, if a church can be raised up from these very stones. Interestingly enough in The Lollards of the Chiltern Hills we find some of the same family names are listed as Baptists after the Reformation. Again, there are churches in America which began in Wales and were cncerned to get their baptism from a church in Olchon Wales, a church that likely had a prereformation origin. The Waldensians, accordingto Inquisitor Reinarius Saccho in the 12 century, had churches in Constantinople and Philadelphia (like in Rev. 3 Philadelphia). In another source, from the 1400s I found that the Waldensians sent a committee to check on a church in South India!!!! The first group I foused on in my researches in church history was the Waldensians. I began the research in the Spring of 1963. Forty years later I was moved to tears to have a Waldensian introduce himself to me after I had preached in a rural church in Western North Carolina. He was from Valdese, and another form of their name. Two-sided truths are what gave Baptists in the 16-1700s their liberal, balanced, flexible, creative, and magnetic power that enabled them to make such a great contribution to Church and Worl History. If we knew and understand biblical teachings better, we could likely regain a position of influence in human affairs that would enable us to better advance our Lord’s cause.

]]> http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/trevinwax/2009/04/28/the-other-side-of-william-whitsitt/#comment-4687 Kingdom People - April 2009 « Kingdom People Thu, 30 Apr 2009 08:18:43 +0000 http://trevinwax.com/?p=3154#comment-4687 [...] BOOK REVIEWS Unfashionable - Tullian Tchividjian Lost and Found - Ed Stetzer Introducing Paul - Michael Bird Lost in Transmission? What We Can Know about the Words of Jesus - Nick Perrin Fasting - Scot McKnight The God I Don’t Understand - Christopher Wright The Gospel of the Kingdom - G.E. Ladd Godology - Christian George W.H. Whitsitt: The Man and the Controversy - James Slatton [...] [...] BOOK REVIEWS Unfashionable – Tullian Tchividjian Lost and Found – Ed Stetzer Introducing Paul – Michael Bird Lost in Transmission? What We Can Know about the Words of Jesus – Nick Perrin Fasting – Scot McKnight The God I Don’t Understand – Christopher Wright The Gospel of the Kingdom – G.E. Ladd Godology – Christian George W.H. Whitsitt: The Man and the Controversy – James Slatton [...]

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