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	<title>Comments on: Romanian Baptists on the Problem of SBC &quot;Rebaptizing&quot;</title>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like I always say, it&#039;s a good thing we aren&#039;t still doing circumcisions. With the poor sacramental theology of modern evangelicals and baptists, there&#039;d be lots of blood on the ground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like I always say, it&#8217;s a good thing we aren&#8217;t still doing circumcisions. With the poor sacramental theology of modern evangelicals and baptists, there&#8217;d be lots of blood on the ground.</p>
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		<title>By: Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 05:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys.... I hope you read GREEK ?

Praxis Obnoxia and other Greek/Latin books (now in English thanks to Catholic scholars like Erasmus) demonstrate that ALL THE ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN FATHERS believed in Infant Baptism! And guess what--they were Bible Believers--like St. Augustine of Hippo, yeah?

Anyone got Greek Goat&#039;s Milk?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys&#8230;. I hope you read GREEK ?</p>
<p>Praxis Obnoxia and other Greek/Latin books (now in English thanks to Catholic scholars like Erasmus) demonstrate that ALL THE ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN FATHERS believed in Infant Baptism! And guess what&#8211;they were Bible Believers&#8211;like St. Augustine of Hippo, yeah?</p>
<p>Anyone got Greek Goat&#8217;s Milk?</p>
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		<title>By: E1st</title>
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		<dc:creator>E1st</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps it would be informative to include those who baptize covenant children in the discussion.  This site is so even-handed and fair on these issues, it might be interesting for people to be exposed to the biblical arguments for infant baptism as well, especially since the PCA and SBC are thick as thieves these days.

Here&#039;s a resource explaining the concept.
http://www.spepc.org/assets/PDF/FAQ-baptize-web.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps it would be informative to include those who baptize covenant children in the discussion.  This site is so even-handed and fair on these issues, it might be interesting for people to be exposed to the biblical arguments for infant baptism as well, especially since the PCA and SBC are thick as thieves these days.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a resource explaining the concept.<br />
<a href="http://www.spepc.org/assets/PDF/FAQ-baptize-web.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.spepc.org/assets/PDF/FAQ-baptize-web.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Americans get rebaptized because they do NOT here the Gospel preached on a weekly basis in Church. Moreover, after getting baptized, they are fed a steady diet of Legalism which completey destroys their faith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Americans get rebaptized because they do NOT here the Gospel preached on a weekly basis in Church. Moreover, after getting baptized, they are fed a steady diet of Legalism which completey destroys their faith.</p>
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		<title>By: Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about the Orthodox Church--is their baptism valid?

I read ALL the Orthodox Fathers supported Infant Baptism. I also read the Nicene Council did, too.

Maybe the Heretic Pelagius was the first who did not? St. Augustine wrote a treatise defending Infant baptism against the Heresy of Pelagianism. There were several councils at the time that denounced Pelagius as &quot;anathema sit.&quot;

What do you guys think of Saint Cyprian of Carthage?

If the Early Orthodox Christian Catholic Church was ONCE SAVED - with Valid Infant Baptism - THEN ALWAYS SAVED, yea?

There can be NO doubts about water and the Holy Ghost read John 3:5, because there is no salvation outside the Church, as I learned in Praxis Obnoxia this is Orthodox Christian Dogma.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about the Orthodox Church&#8211;is their baptism valid?</p>
<p>I read ALL the Orthodox Fathers supported Infant Baptism. I also read the Nicene Council did, too.</p>
<p>Maybe the Heretic Pelagius was the first who did not? St. Augustine wrote a treatise defending Infant baptism against the Heresy of Pelagianism. There were several councils at the time that denounced Pelagius as &#8220;anathema sit.&#8221;</p>
<p>What do you guys think of Saint Cyprian of Carthage?</p>
<p>If the Early Orthodox Christian Catholic Church was ONCE SAVED &#8211; with Valid Infant Baptism &#8211; THEN ALWAYS SAVED, yea?</p>
<p>There can be NO doubts about water and the Holy Ghost read John 3:5, because there is no salvation outside the Church, as I learned in Praxis Obnoxia this is Orthodox Christian Dogma.</p>
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		<title>By: Cary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just saw on Facebook Saturday night where my stepdaughter was posting that she is getting baptized next Saturday night.  Long story, but we rarely see each other, and she was baptized based on a profession of faith when she was 6 in my church.  So, I sent her a private message through Facebook and asked her why she was getting baptized again since I considered her baptism valid.  Her reply was that it wasn&#039;t about being valid, but that she had recently experienced Jesus in a richer way than ever before in her life and had re-dedicated her life.

I did not get into a discussion with her regarding this, but told her that I would trust the pastoral care she was getting and rejoice that she is walking with the Lord in the here and now.  But, in my opinion, unless she considers that she was not a Christian when she was 6, this second baptism is unnecessary.  All her recent experience has done is shown that she belong to Him and it was time for the prodigal to come home.  I hope I did the right thing by not laying all this on her, but I am very interested to see what the Romanian Baptist brothers have to say about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just saw on Facebook Saturday night where my stepdaughter was posting that she is getting baptized next Saturday night.  Long story, but we rarely see each other, and she was baptized based on a profession of faith when she was 6 in my church.  So, I sent her a private message through Facebook and asked her why she was getting baptized again since I considered her baptism valid.  Her reply was that it wasn&#8217;t about being valid, but that she had recently experienced Jesus in a richer way than ever before in her life and had re-dedicated her life.</p>
<p>I did not get into a discussion with her regarding this, but told her that I would trust the pastoral care she was getting and rejoice that she is walking with the Lord in the here and now.  But, in my opinion, unless she considers that she was not a Christian when she was 6, this second baptism is unnecessary.  All her recent experience has done is shown that she belong to Him and it was time for the prodigal to come home.  I hope I did the right thing by not laying all this on her, but I am very interested to see what the Romanian Baptist brothers have to say about this.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Frahm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Frahm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 13:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a point to discuss... if you move to a new city, a new state and there join a new church body... is it WRONG to be baptized as a public profession of your faith in the midst of that particular congregation?  If you were earlier baptized as part of a different body, your public profession amongst that community is obviously recognized, but would it be scripturally wrong to get re-baptized in a new community?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a point to discuss&#8230; if you move to a new city, a new state and there join a new church body&#8230; is it WRONG to be baptized as a public profession of your faith in the midst of that particular congregation?  If you were earlier baptized as part of a different body, your public profession amongst that community is obviously recognized, but would it be scripturally wrong to get re-baptized in a new community?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 13:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I look forward to reading what is said as well. I can&#039;t believe this happens, and yet I was also a re-baptism. I think my second one was a truly needed baptism, however, as no one had to convince me that I hadn&#039;t been saved the first time. Another story, another time.

Ok, yes, let&#039;s get to the bottom of this. Thanks for bringing it up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I look forward to reading what is said as well. I can&#8217;t believe this happens, and yet I was also a re-baptism. I think my second one was a truly needed baptism, however, as no one had to convince me that I hadn&#8217;t been saved the first time. Another story, another time.</p>
<p>Ok, yes, let&#8217;s get to the bottom of this. Thanks for bringing it up!</p>
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		<title>By: Trevin Wax</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trevin Wax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 13:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RJ,

I suppose it&#039;s a problem for a number of denominations in the U.S. that practice believers&#039; baptism. This subject is the elephant in the room when speaking of baptismal statistics in the SBC. Our annual number of baptisms has already declined, but if we were to take out of those the number of baptisms that were &quot;counted&quot; in previous years, our numbers would be strikingly lower.

I hope that people will stick around to see what the Romanians have to say about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RJ,</p>
<p>I suppose it&#8217;s a problem for a number of denominations in the U.S. that practice believers&#8217; baptism. This subject is the elephant in the room when speaking of baptismal statistics in the SBC. Our annual number of baptisms has already declined, but if we were to take out of those the number of baptisms that were &#8220;counted&#8221; in previous years, our numbers would be strikingly lower.</p>
<p>I hope that people will stick around to see what the Romanians have to say about this.</p>
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		<title>By: RJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>RJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 12:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this a problem only with Baptists? I don&#039;t remember seeing it in other congregations? To me the Bible is very clear about this: One baptism and one baptism only.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this a problem only with Baptists? I don&#8217;t remember seeing it in other congregations? To me the Bible is very clear about this: One baptism and one baptism only.</p>
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