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		<title>Comment on A Renaissance of Gospel-Centered Music: A Conversation with Matt Papa by derrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>derrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 01:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ kenneth &quot;The fix? Churches that are blessed with very talented artists should take them and pour into them and mentor them and be their record label…like Sojourn for example. It keeps the artist accountable for what they write and release and also gives them their church families affirmation/support (both of which are not required with almost all major labels). Not all churches have extremely gifted musicians (most don’t), but to those who do…find them before Sony does!!!&quot; 

Thats the attitude we should be taking!! well put</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ kenneth &#8220;The fix? Churches that are blessed with very talented artists should take them and pour into them and mentor them and be their record label…like Sojourn for example. It keeps the artist accountable for what they write and release and also gives them their church families affirmation/support (both of which are not required with almost all major labels). Not all churches have extremely gifted musicians (most don’t), but to those who do…find them before Sony does!!!&#8221; </p>
<p>Thats the attitude we should be taking!! well put</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Renaissance of Gospel-Centered Music: A Conversation with Matt Papa by Kenneth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenneth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Christian who is an artist I love this interview! Thanks for including it on your blog Trevin! I agree with Matt, find artists that are doing it right and buy their music.

Paolo, it is important to remember that most (the clear majority) of major CCM labels/publishing groups are owned by secular labels (EMI owns Sparrow, sixsteps, Worship Together, Forefront...etc.; Sony owns Provident, Essential, Reunion...etc.) Most of the artists you hear on Christian radio are on one of those labels (go look up the artists on those labels and see for yourself). Just thinking about that alone should reveal the final goal of these labels...get the &quot;Christians&#039;&quot; money. I know that ministry happens and that the artists on these labels generally want to honor God with their music. But it&#039;s almost as weird as Disney owning the SBC as a way to make more money. I also should say that I know that true born-again believers work for these labels and desire that the church be edified...but they eventually have to answer to unbelievers if they aren&#039;t selling enough &quot;Christian&quot; music...that is clearly a troubled system in my opinion. 

The fix? Churches that are blessed with very talented artists should take them and pour into them and mentor them and be their record label...like Sojourn for example. It keeps the artist accountable for what they write and release and also gives them their church families affirmation/support (both of which are not required with almost all major labels). Not all churches have extremely gifted musicians (most don&#039;t), but to those who do...find them before Sony does!!! 

Anyway, that&#039;s my two cents. Now go buy Matt&#039;s music!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Christian who is an artist I love this interview! Thanks for including it on your blog Trevin! I agree with Matt, find artists that are doing it right and buy their music.</p>
<p>Paolo, it is important to remember that most (the clear majority) of major CCM labels/publishing groups are owned by secular labels (EMI owns Sparrow, sixsteps, Worship Together, Forefront&#8230;etc.; Sony owns Provident, Essential, Reunion&#8230;etc.) Most of the artists you hear on Christian radio are on one of those labels (go look up the artists on those labels and see for yourself). Just thinking about that alone should reveal the final goal of these labels&#8230;get the &#8220;Christians&#8217;&#8221; money. I know that ministry happens and that the artists on these labels generally want to honor God with their music. But it&#8217;s almost as weird as Disney owning the SBC as a way to make more money. I also should say that I know that true born-again believers work for these labels and desire that the church be edified&#8230;but they eventually have to answer to unbelievers if they aren&#8217;t selling enough &#8220;Christian&#8221; music&#8230;that is clearly a troubled system in my opinion. </p>
<p>The fix? Churches that are blessed with very talented artists should take them and pour into them and mentor them and be their record label&#8230;like Sojourn for example. It keeps the artist accountable for what they write and release and also gives them their church families affirmation/support (both of which are not required with almost all major labels). Not all churches have extremely gifted musicians (most don&#8217;t), but to those who do&#8230;find them before Sony does!!! </p>
<p>Anyway, that&#8217;s my two cents. Now go buy Matt&#8217;s music!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Go Beyond the Sex Questions by L. Adam Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>L. Adam Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should read the book. I like many were skeptical of &quot;Real Marriage&quot;. I was very surprised that I was not offended as an elder brother type. I would recommend to any and all my married friends.

For the record, I love reformed theology and studying the Bible. I have a passion for evangelism and follow many Gospel Coalition blogs and reformed writers. CONCERNED: the tone of these blogs has become much less grace and lots of truth. Authority figures weighing in on books they have not read or responding to what others say about someone else. 

Let&#039;s be careful that the Pharisee and Sadducee in all of us stays in check.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should read the book. I like many were skeptical of &#8220;Real Marriage&#8221;. I was very surprised that I was not offended as an elder brother type. I would recommend to any and all my married friends.</p>
<p>For the record, I love reformed theology and studying the Bible. I have a passion for evangelism and follow many Gospel Coalition blogs and reformed writers. CONCERNED: the tone of these blogs has become much less grace and lots of truth. Authority figures weighing in on books they have not read or responding to what others say about someone else. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s be careful that the Pharisee and Sadducee in all of us stays in check.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Do So Many Great Talents Die Young? by Pamr6</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pamr6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t help notice you mentioned all &quot;young&quot; talent. Is that why Michael Jackson was omitted? He was over 50 when he died, so he&#039;s not young anymore? While that may be true (your body does indeed change between 40 &amp; 50) his story fits your criteria. There are many stars who had the fame &amp; fortune and have lived long lives. Some are actors who live badly; i.e., drugs, sex with all and sundry (it seems) and sometimes other vices. It all boils down to ego and the money to indulge that ego. We all want it in some form or other - even if we think we don&#039;t. I sometimes feel the Curse was Ego and we either got it or became aware of it when Eve bit the apple. We have Ego ergo we Sin.

Maybe it is how you get the fame &amp; money. Billy Graham hasn&#039;t self destructed but Jim Baker and Jimmy Swaggart have. Nope, I guess that&#039;s not it either. 

We need to all pray for Whitney&#039;s family, the people who spoke at her funeral (I think only two or so really know the Lord) and for each other. Things like this bring home the reality that there are no answers or fixes for the things of this world but God and His Gift of Eternal Life thru His Son, Jesus. That&#039;s it. Pure and simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t help notice you mentioned all &#8220;young&#8221; talent. Is that why Michael Jackson was omitted? He was over 50 when he died, so he&#8217;s not young anymore? While that may be true (your body does indeed change between 40 &amp; 50) his story fits your criteria. There are many stars who had the fame &amp; fortune and have lived long lives. Some are actors who live badly; i.e., drugs, sex with all and sundry (it seems) and sometimes other vices. It all boils down to ego and the money to indulge that ego. We all want it in some form or other &#8211; even if we think we don&#8217;t. I sometimes feel the Curse was Ego and we either got it or became aware of it when Eve bit the apple. We have Ego ergo we Sin.</p>
<p>Maybe it is how you get the fame &amp; money. Billy Graham hasn&#8217;t self destructed but Jim Baker and Jimmy Swaggart have. Nope, I guess that&#8217;s not it either. </p>
<p>We need to all pray for Whitney&#8217;s family, the people who spoke at her funeral (I think only two or so really know the Lord) and for each other. Things like this bring home the reality that there are no answers or fixes for the things of this world but God and His Gift of Eternal Life thru His Son, Jesus. That&#8217;s it. Pure and simple.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Renaissance of Gospel-Centered Music: A Conversation with Matt Papa by Paolo Romano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paolo Romano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trevin, I would love to see an interview with a major CCM organization to balance out this conversation. Many networks are run by godly people with Gospel-driven missions. 

I give Papa some points about some networks/labels/artists, but this is an unfortunate broad brush perspective on a great industry as a whole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trevin, I would love to see an interview with a major CCM organization to balance out this conversation. Many networks are run by godly people with Gospel-driven missions. </p>
<p>I give Papa some points about some networks/labels/artists, but this is an unfortunate broad brush perspective on a great industry as a whole.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Renaissance of Gospel-Centered Music: A Conversation with Matt Papa by Jim Richardson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Switchfoot has theologically deep/sound lyrics? Did I miss something? They make great &quot;religious&quot; music that features zero Gospel, which is exactly the problem this article is speaking out against. Great interview other than his including Switchfoot in the &quot;Gospel-centered&quot; category.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Switchfoot has theologically deep/sound lyrics? Did I miss something? They make great &#8220;religious&#8221; music that features zero Gospel, which is exactly the problem this article is speaking out against. Great interview other than his including Switchfoot in the &#8220;Gospel-centered&#8221; category.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Go Beyond the Sex Questions by Rebekah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebekah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Ryan-- while idolatry can very easily become a motivation for pursuing sex, idolatry can creep in anywhere, and we shouldn&#039;t assume that a couple asking questions about sexuality is wrongly obsessed with it! 

They may simply feel like I did as a newlywed: curious, excited, and sincerely wanting to make sure I was glorifying God. They want to &quot;think theologically&quot; about it and make sure that they haven&#039;t confused worldly messages with the Bible&#039;s. There&#039;s nothing wrong with that kind of conversation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Ryan&#8211; while idolatry can very easily become a motivation for pursuing sex, idolatry can creep in anywhere, and we shouldn&#8217;t assume that a couple asking questions about sexuality is wrongly obsessed with it! </p>
<p>They may simply feel like I did as a newlywed: curious, excited, and sincerely wanting to make sure I was glorifying God. They want to &#8220;think theologically&#8221; about it and make sure that they haven&#8217;t confused worldly messages with the Bible&#8217;s. There&#8217;s nothing wrong with that kind of conversation.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Go Beyond the Sex Questions by John Mureiko</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Mureiko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post. This is definitely the most sane treatment of the subject I have seen yet since Driscoll&#039;s book came out. &quot;Why do you ask?&quot; is the key question if you want to get to the root of potential idolatry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post. This is definitely the most sane treatment of the subject I have seen yet since Driscoll&#8217;s book came out. &#8220;Why do you ask?&#8221; is the key question if you want to get to the root of potential idolatry.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Go Beyond the Sex Questions by Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 00:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The recent Christian media flurry about sex has actually served to do the opposite of its intent for me.  I can&#039;t help thinking that the priority we&#039;re giving to questions of sexual liberty in the bedroom are only necessary because we (too often pastors included) have put sex on a pedestal where it doesn&#039;t belong.

The whole scenario calls to mind C.S. Lewis&#039; analogy of his culture to a food obsessed culture attending burlesque shows featuring food rather than women.

I appreciate that the questions are legitimate, but I think maybe even the initial answer needs to go beyond a simple explanation of freedom and put sex in its appropriate place; as a thing intended to be accessed and applied as a function of loving God and loving my neighbor.  People from my generation aren&#039;t necessarily asking &#039;can we ___?&#039; with the same motivations as our elders would.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The recent Christian media flurry about sex has actually served to do the opposite of its intent for me.  I can&#8217;t help thinking that the priority we&#8217;re giving to questions of sexual liberty in the bedroom are only necessary because we (too often pastors included) have put sex on a pedestal where it doesn&#8217;t belong.</p>
<p>The whole scenario calls to mind C.S. Lewis&#8217; analogy of his culture to a food obsessed culture attending burlesque shows featuring food rather than women.</p>
<p>I appreciate that the questions are legitimate, but I think maybe even the initial answer needs to go beyond a simple explanation of freedom and put sex in its appropriate place; as a thing intended to be accessed and applied as a function of loving God and loving my neighbor.  People from my generation aren&#8217;t necessarily asking &#8216;can we ___?&#8217; with the same motivations as our elders would.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Go Beyond the Sex Questions by donovan</title>
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		<dc:creator>donovan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every concern that was brought up in this post is addressed in the Real Marriage book, current sermon series and the participants guidebook. My wife and I have benefited exponentially from the Driscoll&#039;s vulnerability. 

Let me demystify the book. Real Marriage is broken into three parts: Marriage, Sex, and The Last Day.
 
The Marriage portion is about friendship, biblical roles for men and women in the marriage, repentance, and reconciliation. He defines friendship with an acrostic Fruitful, Reciprocal, Intimate, Enjoyable, Needed, Devoted, Sanctifying. He talks about how men need to reflect both Jesus’ “tough and tender” character. He tackles the issue honoring your wife, physically, emotionally, verbally, financially, technologically. Driscoll addresses the importance of the husband leading spiritually by finding a good church and worshiping at home together as a family. Regarding women, the books defines what it means for a wife to respect her husband and how to disagree respectfully. In the Real Marriage sermon series Mark teaches that the wife needs to be respectful and the husband needs to be respectable. The fifth chapter is called “Taking Out The Trash.” He mentions the “four horsemen” that will destroy communication in a marriage: 1. criticism, contempt, defensiveness, and stonewalling. This chapter also defines repentance, forgiveness, bitterness and how to have “a good fight,” which should always lead to reconciliation.

Yes, the second part of the book is about sex. However, the content of this portion of the book  or sermon series is not dangling from the thread of the &quot;Can We____?&quot; chapter. Driscoll lays out a biblical foundation for what sex is and isn&#039;t (god, gross or gift?) Here are the types of questions that are being asked in the participants guidebook, &quot;how does American culture at large reinforce the idea of sex as a god?&quot; or “How does having a redeemed view of sex as a gift from God refute the distortions of sex as god or gross?&quot; The book also addresses the hurt, pain, and shame of sexual sin or abuse. As these issues are addressed people are pointed to find identity, forgiveness, healing, and renewal in the person and work of Jesus. Real Marriage also addressees the porn epidemic or to quote Driscoll the &quot;marriage killer.&quot; It is not until chapter nine that he starts going into specifics about sex and when he does, it is about looking after the needs of your spouse rather than yourself. He deals with issues of pride and humility. Now, the hinging chapter of Driscoll’s reputation, “Can we____?” is built on the foundation of three questions based off of 1 Corinthians 6:12. 1. Is it lawful? 2. Is it helpful? 3. Is it enslaving? He goes into specific questions that all of us have asked or thought at some point in time. 

The third and final part of Real Marriage ends with a chapter called “Reverse Engineering Your Life and Marriage.” It covers planning for your future, setting up your priorities for life. There is a template of questions that help you process the future in a very detailed way.

Real Marriage has dove head first into “why” and “heart” of your concerns about the preoccupation of sex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every concern that was brought up in this post is addressed in the Real Marriage book, current sermon series and the participants guidebook. My wife and I have benefited exponentially from the Driscoll&#8217;s vulnerability. </p>
<p>Let me demystify the book. Real Marriage is broken into three parts: Marriage, Sex, and The Last Day.</p>
<p>The Marriage portion is about friendship, biblical roles for men and women in the marriage, repentance, and reconciliation. He defines friendship with an acrostic Fruitful, Reciprocal, Intimate, Enjoyable, Needed, Devoted, Sanctifying. He talks about how men need to reflect both Jesus’ “tough and tender” character. He tackles the issue honoring your wife, physically, emotionally, verbally, financially, technologically. Driscoll addresses the importance of the husband leading spiritually by finding a good church and worshiping at home together as a family. Regarding women, the books defines what it means for a wife to respect her husband and how to disagree respectfully. In the Real Marriage sermon series Mark teaches that the wife needs to be respectful and the husband needs to be respectable. The fifth chapter is called “Taking Out The Trash.” He mentions the “four horsemen” that will destroy communication in a marriage: 1. criticism, contempt, defensiveness, and stonewalling. This chapter also defines repentance, forgiveness, bitterness and how to have “a good fight,” which should always lead to reconciliation.</p>
<p>Yes, the second part of the book is about sex. However, the content of this portion of the book  or sermon series is not dangling from the thread of the &#8220;Can We____?&#8221; chapter. Driscoll lays out a biblical foundation for what sex is and isn&#8217;t (god, gross or gift?) Here are the types of questions that are being asked in the participants guidebook, &#8220;how does American culture at large reinforce the idea of sex as a god?&#8221; or “How does having a redeemed view of sex as a gift from God refute the distortions of sex as god or gross?&#8221; The book also addresses the hurt, pain, and shame of sexual sin or abuse. As these issues are addressed people are pointed to find identity, forgiveness, healing, and renewal in the person and work of Jesus. Real Marriage also addressees the porn epidemic or to quote Driscoll the &#8220;marriage killer.&#8221; It is not until chapter nine that he starts going into specifics about sex and when he does, it is about looking after the needs of your spouse rather than yourself. He deals with issues of pride and humility. Now, the hinging chapter of Driscoll’s reputation, “Can we____?” is built on the foundation of three questions based off of 1 Corinthians 6:12. 1. Is it lawful? 2. Is it helpful? 3. Is it enslaving? He goes into specific questions that all of us have asked or thought at some point in time. </p>
<p>The third and final part of Real Marriage ends with a chapter called “Reverse Engineering Your Life and Marriage.” It covers planning for your future, setting up your priorities for life. There is a template of questions that help you process the future in a very detailed way.</p>
<p>Real Marriage has dove head first into “why” and “heart” of your concerns about the preoccupation of sex.</p>
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