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		<title>By: Laudable Linkage &#171; Stray Thoughts</title>
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		<description>[...] The Differences Between Religion and the Gospel. Excellent. No, it&#8217;s not the video you may have seen floating around Facebook. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Differences Between Religion and The Gospel &#124; Bob Pittenger</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Differences Between Religion and The Gospel &#124; Bob Pittenger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 17:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Tim Keller from a series of messages on self-dependence.  The article is entitled, &#8220;The Differences Between Religion and the Gospel.&#8221; Tim Keller makes clear what he means by &#8220;Religion&#8221; and &#8220;the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: David Kinsella</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Kinsella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 21:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Religion is not opposed to Jesus&#039; teachings. Following Jesus&#039; teachings is religion. All the great Protestant preachers of the past understood this and had no problem using the word. The real issue should be between pure and undefiled religion (James 1:27), which is what Jesus taught, and impure and defiled religion which is what the Pharisees taught.
 
According to Stong&#039;s the word means: 1. religious worship
a) esp. external, that which consists of ceremonies.
 
The exact same word is found in Acts 26:5b where Paul says of himself: &quot;that after the most straitest sect of our religion I lived a Pharisee.&quot;
 
And in verse 26 of the same chapter of the book of James, James talks about a worthless religion, then going on to talk about a very precious and holy and God-pleasing religion.
 
I think this kind of talk about &quot;religion versus Jesus&quot; is just confusing and should be avoided. It is modern, worldly Christianity at it&#039;s most anemic.
 
It seems to me that these days Christians hate the word religion. What I find strange is that the Bible speaks favourably of it. It&#039;s like the word &quot;tradition&quot;, the Bible speaks of traditions of men and of God. Likewise their is godly religion and hypocritical religion.
 
This idea seems to be heavily linked with the idea that &quot;Church don&#039;t matter&quot;. I&#039;m sorry, but we&#039;re saved together, as a body, and Church does matter. And in that Church Jesus asks us to practice the religion he gave us. Theology is important and bad theology leads to heresy, which has the potential to damn a soul. That&#039;s why it&#039;s so important to try and get these things right. I believe this Churchless Christianity that has become prevalent is dangerous, and seems to have its roots in 16th century pietism.
 
The issue is nuanced, and to many the difference seems to be unimportant, and many see that these types of discussion about words lead many times to arguments and name calling etc. That does in fact appear to be exactly what happened many times during the various Church councils down through the centuries. Yet they were important nonetheless. They carved out definitions that kept the Church within acceptable boundaries. The most important and famous one was the first Ecumenical Council which refuted Arius and his heretical theology that denied the dvinity of Christ. I think most Protestants would agree with the first 4 Ecumenical Councils at least. Again, bad theology leads to heresy which can lead to hell. That&#039;s why arguments and discussions about words are important, but everything must be done in humility and love.
 
James 1:27 &quot;Pure and undefiled religion before God and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself unspotted from the world&quot;
 
Any Christian who practices these two things is practicing a religion that is like a pleasing aroma in the nostrils of God.
 
What I feel Christians (true disciples of Christ) are talking about when they refer to religion is religious hypocrisy. The pharisees in the time of Christ are a prime example. There are many Church leaders today who fit the bill. Church attendance, Bible reading and simply abstaining from evil is no good. Christ requires real fruit. Works that reach out and touch the poor of this world in a tangible way. Works that cause us to reach deep into our own pockets and souls and give without reserve. To empty ourselves that others may be enriched. It is the Christ-life working in us. This is the opposite spirit of the world, which is the spirit of self-seeking.
 
James does speak of hypocrites in the Church. He calls them double minded.
James 1:7-8 &amp; 4:8
&quot;For let not that man suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord; he is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways.
&quot;Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded.&quot;
Revelation 21:8 tells us of their future: &quot;But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.&quot;
 
In our own circles, no matter where we attend Church whether it is one of the historic and Apostolic Churches or in a Protestant/Evangelical type set up there are many hypocrites claiming to be Christ&#039;s disciples. Jesus calls those people lukewarm, and that if they don&#039;t repent He will spit them out of His mouth. They literally make Him want to get sick.
 
But what I&#039;ve also noticed is that many of my Evangelical brethren who are very vocal about the evils of hypocrisy (or religion as they call it), do not do much in the way of James&#039; first definition of pure and undefiled religion: namely taking care of orphans and widows. God speaks many times (especially in the OT) of His desire that His people be those who do justly and act righteously. They are very vocal about the need to keep from polluting ourselves with the evil of this world (and rightly so). But Christianity does not exist in a vacuum. When we remove the evil from our lives we must fill it with righteousness. And what is the righteousness that God wants to fill our lives with? It&#039;s not simply refraining from wickedness, the Pharisees were experts at that sort of thing.
 
Psalm 82:1-4
&quot;God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods. How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy. Deliver the poor and needy: rid [them] out of the hand of the wicked.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Religion is not opposed to Jesus&#8217; teachings. Following Jesus&#8217; teachings is religion. All the great Protestant preachers of the past understood this and had no problem using the word. The real issue should be between pure and undefiled religion (James 1:27), which is what Jesus taught, and impure and defiled religion which is what the Pharisees taught.</p>
<p>According to Stong&#8217;s the word means: 1. religious worship<br />
a) esp. external, that which consists of ceremonies.</p>
<p>The exact same word is found in Acts 26:5b where Paul says of himself: &#8220;that after the most straitest sect of our religion I lived a Pharisee.&#8221;</p>
<p>And in verse 26 of the same chapter of the book of James, James talks about a worthless religion, then going on to talk about a very precious and holy and God-pleasing religion.</p>
<p>I think this kind of talk about &#8220;religion versus Jesus&#8221; is just confusing and should be avoided. It is modern, worldly Christianity at it&#8217;s most anemic.</p>
<p>It seems to me that these days Christians hate the word religion. What I find strange is that the Bible speaks favourably of it. It&#8217;s like the word &#8220;tradition&#8221;, the Bible speaks of traditions of men and of God. Likewise their is godly religion and hypocritical religion.</p>
<p>This idea seems to be heavily linked with the idea that &#8220;Church don&#8217;t matter&#8221;. I&#8217;m sorry, but we&#8217;re saved together, as a body, and Church does matter. And in that Church Jesus asks us to practice the religion he gave us. Theology is important and bad theology leads to heresy, which has the potential to damn a soul. That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s so important to try and get these things right. I believe this Churchless Christianity that has become prevalent is dangerous, and seems to have its roots in 16th century pietism.</p>
<p>The issue is nuanced, and to many the difference seems to be unimportant, and many see that these types of discussion about words lead many times to arguments and name calling etc. That does in fact appear to be exactly what happened many times during the various Church councils down through the centuries. Yet they were important nonetheless. They carved out definitions that kept the Church within acceptable boundaries. The most important and famous one was the first Ecumenical Council which refuted Arius and his heretical theology that denied the dvinity of Christ. I think most Protestants would agree with the first 4 Ecumenical Councils at least. Again, bad theology leads to heresy which can lead to hell. That&#8217;s why arguments and discussions about words are important, but everything must be done in humility and love.</p>
<p>James 1:27 &#8220;Pure and undefiled religion before God and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself unspotted from the world&#8221;</p>
<p>Any Christian who practices these two things is practicing a religion that is like a pleasing aroma in the nostrils of God.</p>
<p>What I feel Christians (true disciples of Christ) are talking about when they refer to religion is religious hypocrisy. The pharisees in the time of Christ are a prime example. There are many Church leaders today who fit the bill. Church attendance, Bible reading and simply abstaining from evil is no good. Christ requires real fruit. Works that reach out and touch the poor of this world in a tangible way. Works that cause us to reach deep into our own pockets and souls and give without reserve. To empty ourselves that others may be enriched. It is the Christ-life working in us. This is the opposite spirit of the world, which is the spirit of self-seeking.</p>
<p>James does speak of hypocrites in the Church. He calls them double minded.<br />
James 1:7-8 &amp; 4:8<br />
&#8220;For let not that man suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord; he is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways.<br />
&#8220;Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded.&#8221;<br />
Revelation 21:8 tells us of their future: &#8220;But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.&#8221;</p>
<p>In our own circles, no matter where we attend Church whether it is one of the historic and Apostolic Churches or in a Protestant/Evangelical type set up there are many hypocrites claiming to be Christ&#8217;s disciples. Jesus calls those people lukewarm, and that if they don&#8217;t repent He will spit them out of His mouth. They literally make Him want to get sick.</p>
<p>But what I&#8217;ve also noticed is that many of my Evangelical brethren who are very vocal about the evils of hypocrisy (or religion as they call it), do not do much in the way of James&#8217; first definition of pure and undefiled religion: namely taking care of orphans and widows. God speaks many times (especially in the OT) of His desire that His people be those who do justly and act righteously. They are very vocal about the need to keep from polluting ourselves with the evil of this world (and rightly so). But Christianity does not exist in a vacuum. When we remove the evil from our lives we must fill it with righteousness. And what is the righteousness that God wants to fill our lives with? It&#8217;s not simply refraining from wickedness, the Pharisees were experts at that sort of thing.</p>
<p>Psalm 82:1-4<br />
&#8220;God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods. How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy. Deliver the poor and needy: rid [them] out of the hand of the wicked.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Nan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2012 22:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weird... was the title to this post altered? I&#039;m pretty sure it said &quot;Religion vs. Gospel&quot;. Perhaps it was in the link that I followed from Twitter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weird&#8230; was the title to this post altered? I&#8217;m pretty sure it said &#8220;Religion vs. Gospel&#8221;. Perhaps it was in the link that I followed from Twitter.</p>
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		<title>By: The Difference Between Religion and the Gospel &#124; fwb21</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/tullian/2009/05/14/the-differences-between-religion-and-the-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-11368</link>
		<dc:creator>The Difference Between Religion and the Gospel &#124; fwb21</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2012 17:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Tchividjian&#8217;s original post on this subject and many others on thegospelcoalition.org, click here Share this:EmailFacebookPrintDigg Tags: Differences, John Piper, Matt Chandler, religion, the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2012 16:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tullian, you might be interested in reading &quot;The Drama of Scripture&quot; (Bartholomew &amp; Goheen) where the authors argue extensively that the &quot;quest for autonomy&quot; is the &quot;fundamental nature of sin&quot; (pp. 43-59) They proceed to trace this theme all throughout the Pentateuch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tullian, you might be interested in reading &#8220;The Drama of Scripture&#8221; (Bartholomew &amp; Goheen) where the authors argue extensively that the &#8220;quest for autonomy&#8221; is the &#8220;fundamental nature of sin&#8221; (pp. 43-59) They proceed to trace this theme all throughout the Pentateuch.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Adkins</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/tullian/2009/05/14/the-differences-between-religion-and-the-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-11364</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Adkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2012 16:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nan, well stated!  And Tim shows the glory of the gospel as well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nan, well stated!  And Tim shows the glory of the gospel as well!</p>
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		<title>By: SingleRoots Weekend Edition :: 1/14-1/15</title>
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		<dc:creator>SingleRoots Weekend Edition :: 1/14-1/15</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2012 12:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Differences Between Religion and the Gospel :: Tullian Tchividjian tweeted a link to this post that he wrote for the Gospel Coalition back in 2009. He lists a number of comparisons that Tim Keller makes between religion and the Gospel. &#8220;&#8230;Real slavery according to the Bible is self-reliance. So, read the comparison list below with humility and care. It will do your soul good.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Differences Between Religion and the Gospel :: Tullian Tchividjian tweeted a link to this post that he wrote for the Gospel Coalition back in 2009. He lists a number of comparisons that Tim Keller makes between religion and the Gospel. &#8220;&#8230;Real slavery according to the Bible is self-reliance. So, read the comparison list below with humility and care. It will do your soul good.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Poem Hear &#8216;Round the World &#124; stirring affection of the soul</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Poem Hear &#8216;Round the World &#124; stirring affection of the soul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2012 09:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the first definition.) For a brilliant post on the differences between religion and the gospel see Tullian&#8217;s compilation from Tim Keller sermons on this topic. (Citing Mr. Keller seems to authenticate the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: nan</title>
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		<dc:creator>nan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2012 08:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To clarify, religion at its root is to be &quot;bound.&quot; Oh, if there&#039;s any word Christians hate more than &quot;religion&quot; it&#039;s gotta be &quot;bound.&quot; But what are we bound to in true &quot;holy religion&quot; as the PCA puts it in some of their formal vows? We are bound to Christ! Bound to the Gospel which is all of Christ and bound (or the Bible says, &quot;slaves to&quot;) righteousness by the power of his resurrection where he loosed the shackles of sin from us and made us free to be bound to Him alone! Hallelujah! Bind me to the mast of true religion which is Jesus, making corpses into servants who delight to be bound to him! 
Just as we find joy and pleasure (through days of struggle, shame, pain and sorrow) in being bound to our spouse, forsaking all others, in marriage, an institution which many describe as stifling and demanding because it involves dying to one&#039;s self daily, so we may find true joy through sorrow, suffering and service to the Lord in the true exercise of our holy religion or being bound, both in soul and conscience to the Gospel which is in Jesus alone. We don&#039;t throw marriage or the word marriage out as bad just because so many of us give it a bad name and miss the beauty of the Gospel in it, so we should not throw out a word that suggests we are bound to Christ and his people forever in a profoundly deep way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To clarify, religion at its root is to be &#8220;bound.&#8221; Oh, if there&#8217;s any word Christians hate more than &#8220;religion&#8221; it&#8217;s gotta be &#8220;bound.&#8221; But what are we bound to in true &#8220;holy religion&#8221; as the PCA puts it in some of their formal vows? We are bound to Christ! Bound to the Gospel which is all of Christ and bound (or the Bible says, &#8220;slaves to&#8221;) righteousness by the power of his resurrection where he loosed the shackles of sin from us and made us free to be bound to Him alone! Hallelujah! Bind me to the mast of true religion which is Jesus, making corpses into servants who delight to be bound to him!<br />
Just as we find joy and pleasure (through days of struggle, shame, pain and sorrow) in being bound to our spouse, forsaking all others, in marriage, an institution which many describe as stifling and demanding because it involves dying to one&#8217;s self daily, so we may find true joy through sorrow, suffering and service to the Lord in the true exercise of our holy religion or being bound, both in soul and conscience to the Gospel which is in Jesus alone. We don&#8217;t throw marriage or the word marriage out as bad just because so many of us give it a bad name and miss the beauty of the Gospel in it, so we should not throw out a word that suggests we are bound to Christ and his people forever in a profoundly deep way.</p>
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