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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/tullian/2012/04/24/three-ways-we-say-no-to-law/comment-page-1/#comment-12527</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2012 15:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article PT, truly good news and I never get tired of you saying it, but hard to really believe, but my observation is that most of your TGC, T4G guys are not saying this, their all for grace &quot;but&quot; most messages they give are in fact &quot;you&#039;re not doing right, your not believing right, you need to follow the imperatives if your truly one of the elect, calls to holiness and more holiness, the true elect are obedient etc., Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article PT, truly good news and I never get tired of you saying it, but hard to really believe, but my observation is that most of your TGC, T4G guys are not saying this, their all for grace &#8220;but&#8221; most messages they give are in fact &#8220;you&#8217;re not doing right, your not believing right, you need to follow the imperatives if your truly one of the elect, calls to holiness and more holiness, the true elect are obedient etc., Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Susanne Schuberth (Germany)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susanne Schuberth (Germany)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 15:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perfectly said, PAUL.

Let&#039;s go on walking &#039;in the Grace of God&#039;, so that &#039;the Holy Spirit&#039;s fruit of joyful giving will come out of us naturally&#039;. Yep, brother! 

By the way, I am reminded of a German Jewish religious scholar (Ruth Lapide) who explained that the Jews gave the tithe first and foremost to provide support for the fatherless and the widows. This was the way God cared for His people. Very often we can read in the OT that God wanted this provision to be done (e.g. Dt 10:18 and Ps 68:6), and He was very concerned about it (f.i. Jer 49:11 and Mal 3:5). Since God never changes there is also a hint at this issue in the NT (Jas 1:27).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perfectly said, PAUL.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s go on walking &#8216;in the Grace of God&#8217;, so that &#8216;the Holy Spirit&#8217;s fruit of joyful giving will come out of us naturally&#8217;. Yep, brother! </p>
<p>By the way, I am reminded of a German Jewish religious scholar (Ruth Lapide) who explained that the Jews gave the tithe first and foremost to provide support for the fatherless and the widows. This was the way God cared for His people. Very often we can read in the OT that God wanted this provision to be done (e.g. Dt 10:18 and Ps 68:6), and He was very concerned about it (f.i. Jer 49:11 and Mal 3:5). Since God never changes there is also a hint at this issue in the NT (Jas 1:27).</p>
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		<title>By: PAUL</title>
		<link>http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/tullian/2012/04/24/three-ways-we-say-no-to-law/comment-page-1/#comment-12513</link>
		<dc:creator>PAUL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 12:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve said: &quot;A ‘tithe’ is calculated.
Christians give freely from the heart. No calculating&quot;.

Paul St, what are the Shepard&#039;s rights and who gave it to them. There was only one group of priest that had rights to the tithe and that was the Levite Priest. Unless your Shepard can trace there lenage back to them, there is no other rights given. Paul spoke about people giving generously from a heart of joyful giving but never demanded any giving by law. If someone is called and excepts to become a Shepard there proper aditude is to live by faith not demand. If we walk in the Grace of God the Holy Spirit&#039;s fruit of joyful giving will come out of us naturally and the Shepard and those in need will be well cared for. God Bless</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve said: &#8220;A ‘tithe’ is calculated.<br />
Christians give freely from the heart. No calculating&#8221;.</p>
<p>Paul St, what are the Shepard&#8217;s rights and who gave it to them. There was only one group of priest that had rights to the tithe and that was the Levite Priest. Unless your Shepard can trace there lenage back to them, there is no other rights given. Paul spoke about people giving generously from a heart of joyful giving but never demanded any giving by law. If someone is called and excepts to become a Shepard there proper aditude is to live by faith not demand. If we walk in the Grace of God the Holy Spirit&#8217;s fruit of joyful giving will come out of us naturally and the Shepard and those in need will be well cared for. God Bless</p>
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		<title>By: Paul St</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul St</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 22:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will not push the tithe.  But I will say the Shepard is well within his or her rights to derive benefits from the flock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will not push the tithe.  But I will say the Shepard is well within his or her rights to derive benefits from the flock.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 01:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A &#039;tithe&#039; is calculated.

Christians give freely from the heart. No calculating.

Jesus told us (anyway) that a true gift, as the widow&#039;s, is everything. Not merely a measly 10%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A &#8216;tithe&#8217; is calculated.</p>
<p>Christians give freely from the heart. No calculating.</p>
<p>Jesus told us (anyway) that a true gift, as the widow&#8217;s, is everything. Not merely a measly 10%.</p>
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		<title>By: Susanne Schuberth (Germany)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susanne Schuberth (Germany)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 19:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi PAUL and Paul St, 

For I have been in a church that urged her believers regularly to give the tithe by at least monthly quoting Malachi 3:10, insisting on the point of view that God would not bless anybody who refuses to give it, I was very relieved by reading a very simple explanation, why we as Gentiles need not give the tenth. 

THE COUNCIL’S LETTER TO GENTILE BELIEVERS 

Acts 15:24-25; 28-29

‘Since we have heard that some persons have gone out from us and troubled you with words, unsettling your minds, although we gave them no instructions, it has seemed good to us, having come to one accord […]
For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay on you no greater burden than these requirements: that you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from what has been strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell.’

Here we can see no requirement for giving the tithe that clearly belonged to the Old Covenant. 

Maybe, this could be helpful too (BTW, the Luther quote was very suitable). 

Blessings,
Susanne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi PAUL and Paul St, </p>
<p>For I have been in a church that urged her believers regularly to give the tithe by at least monthly quoting Malachi 3:10, insisting on the point of view that God would not bless anybody who refuses to give it, I was very relieved by reading a very simple explanation, why we as Gentiles need not give the tenth. </p>
<p>THE COUNCIL’S LETTER TO GENTILE BELIEVERS </p>
<p>Acts 15:24-25; 28-29</p>
<p>‘Since we have heard that some persons have gone out from us and troubled you with words, unsettling your minds, although we gave them no instructions, it has seemed good to us, having come to one accord […]<br />
For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay on you no greater burden than these requirements: that you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from what has been strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell.’</p>
<p>Here we can see no requirement for giving the tithe that clearly belonged to the Old Covenant. </p>
<p>Maybe, this could be helpful too (BTW, the Luther quote was very suitable). </p>
<p>Blessings,<br />
Susanne</p>
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		<title>By: PAUL</title>
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		<dc:creator>PAUL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 18:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul St said:In my opinion given of tithes is not mandatory for our salvation but we do it out of love for our Lord.

Did Jesus and the Disiples tithe and if not did the not love the Lord? God Bless</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul St said:In my opinion given of tithes is not mandatory for our salvation but we do it out of love for our Lord.</p>
<p>Did Jesus and the Disiples tithe and if not did the not love the Lord? God Bless</p>
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		<title>By: PAUL</title>
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		<dc:creator>PAUL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 18:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abraham...Abram at that time... went to war on behalf of Sodom (SODOM, mind you), to rescue his nephew, Lot. He then gave 10% of these spoils of war to Melchizedek, and allowed Sodom to keep 90%, while he himself kept NOTHING! 

In this one single event Abram vowed not to keep any of the spoils of war. Of all the things written about Abraham seems this was a one time giving and not of his personal possesions but from the spoils he took from others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abraham&#8230;Abram at that time&#8230; went to war on behalf of Sodom (SODOM, mind you), to rescue his nephew, Lot. He then gave 10% of these spoils of war to Melchizedek, and allowed Sodom to keep 90%, while he himself kept NOTHING! </p>
<p>In this one single event Abram vowed not to keep any of the spoils of war. Of all the things written about Abraham seems this was a one time giving and not of his personal possesions but from the spoils he took from others.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul St</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul St</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 14:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Paul
 I believe that Abraham was the one who set a precedent on given of tithes. The law of Moses was not set up. 
 In my opinion given of tithes is not mandatory for our salvation but we do it out of love for our Lord.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Paul<br />
 I believe that Abraham was the one who set a precedent on given of tithes. The law of Moses was not set up.<br />
 In my opinion given of tithes is not mandatory for our salvation but we do it out of love for our Lord.</p>
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		<title>By: PAUL</title>
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		<dc:creator>PAUL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 13:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pastor Tullian, would appreciate a post in the future about saying no to a part of Law that usually puts a lump in any a pastor&#039;s throat but I feel puts most Christians in bondage. Biblical Tithing or joyful giving. Below is a quote from one of Luther&#039;s sermons I found interesting. 

 Martin Luther, the founder of the Protestant Christian faith, rejected the idea of tithing and taught against tithing as it pertained to the Gentile believers. Martin Luther in his sermon on August 27, 1525 titled “How Christians Should Regard Moses” spoke of the Law of Moses as being only for the Jews and not for the Gentiles. Martin Luther states in his sermon, “The Law of Moses binds only the Jews and not the Gentiles. Here the Law of Moses has its place. It is no longer binding on us, because it was given only to the people of Israel. And Israel accepted this law for itself and its descendants, while the Gentiles were excluded.” “Moses has nothing to do with us. If I were to accept Moses in one commandment, I would have to accept the entire Moses.” “We will not regard him as our lawgiver - unless he agrees with both the New Testament and the natural law.” “For not one little period in Moses pertains to us.” Martin Luther’s viewpoint in this sermon was due to the fact that the Jews were subject to the Law of Moses, and the Law of Moses included the tithe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pastor Tullian, would appreciate a post in the future about saying no to a part of Law that usually puts a lump in any a pastor&#8217;s throat but I feel puts most Christians in bondage. Biblical Tithing or joyful giving. Below is a quote from one of Luther&#8217;s sermons I found interesting. </p>
<p> Martin Luther, the founder of the Protestant Christian faith, rejected the idea of tithing and taught against tithing as it pertained to the Gentile believers. Martin Luther in his sermon on August 27, 1525 titled “How Christians Should Regard Moses” spoke of the Law of Moses as being only for the Jews and not for the Gentiles. Martin Luther states in his sermon, “The Law of Moses binds only the Jews and not the Gentiles. Here the Law of Moses has its place. It is no longer binding on us, because it was given only to the people of Israel. And Israel accepted this law for itself and its descendants, while the Gentiles were excluded.” “Moses has nothing to do with us. If I were to accept Moses in one commandment, I would have to accept the entire Moses.” “We will not regard him as our lawgiver &#8211; unless he agrees with both the New Testament and the natural law.” “For not one little period in Moses pertains to us.” Martin Luther’s viewpoint in this sermon was due to the fact that the Jews were subject to the Law of Moses, and the Law of Moses included the tithe.</p>
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